"Confirmation Bias" among generation who did well from house prices

Generali

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Because that group of young men having a drink are all blind drunk, aren't they? They're all lying in the gutter, vomiting and wetting themselves as well - anybody can see that!

Graham, you have absolutely no grasp of social history or understanding of the different social mores that used to be the norm.

My Dad was a young man in the 50s and 60s and he said it used to be a bit of a laugh if you had to be helped to your car. People clearly did drink to excess.

There are plenty of Ealing comedies and other films of the time showing people drunk. Let's not pretend that the British were abstemious up until 1985 or something. It's rubbish.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmhealth/151/151we19.htm

Basically the increase in drinking from the 1960s is the advent of women being accepted in pubs.

Increased female consumption of alcohol may go some way to explaining the increases in general consumption since the 1960s since half the population was tacitly barred from drinking before then

mayonnaise

Everybody knows life in the 1500's was much better than it is now.
Dancing, drinking, playing the bagpipe and swilling large jars of beer. Their houses look quite spacious also.

Landofwood

mayonnaise wrote: »

Everybody knows life in the 1500's was much better than it is now.
Dancing, drinking, playing the bagpipe and swilling large jars of beer. Their houses look quite spacious also.

Looks like a Westbuild house

wotsthat

Graham_Devon wrote: »

What - at every single holiday destination? Busy women!

Ahh of course. No one ever got drunk or did anything remotely risque in the swinging 60's. :doh:

You could've just checked the inflation basket to see where people spend their increased wealth of today vs the smaller basket of yesteryear.

Instead you've proven beyond doubt that young men in Butlins drank beer in the '60's - You slam dunked that argument.

PixelPound

ringo_24601 wrote: »

I've just priced up Butlins (7 days) vs our cruise (12 days) and there's only £700 difference (this is for 2 adults, 2 kids). On a daily basis it is cheaper to stay on a decent cruise ship than it is Butlins.

We like butlins, and we'll go out of season, but it certainly it can be just as expensive as going abroad.

ONLY £700 difference :eek:

Thomascook.com have 7 night cruises for 2 adults plus 2 children at under a grand. So a £300 butlins verses a £1000 cruise, I can see why butlins isn't value

chucknorris

mayonnaise wrote: »

Everybody knows life in the 1500's was much better than it is now.
Dancing, drinking, playing the bagpipe and swilling large jars of beer. Their houses look quite spacious also.

House prices were cheaper too, you could go out on a Friday night with sixpence, have a skinfull, half a pig supper, behead a tenant for not paying the rent and still have enough change to buy a mansion. You had to be older than 12 to buy the half pig supper though (I used to tip the older boys to buy me one).

missbiggles1

Generali wrote: »

My Dad was a young man in the 50s and 60s and he said it used to be a bit of a laugh if you had to be helped to your car. People clearly did drink to excess.

There are plenty of Ealing comedies and other films of the time showing people drunk. Let's not pretend that the British were abstemious up until 1985 or something. It's rubbish.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmhealth/151/151we19.htm

Basically the increase in drinking from the 1960s is the advent of women being accepted in pubs.

I certainly never said that people didn't get drunk at that time but they didn't get falling down drunk on a regular basis or think that was what a holiday was all about.

One of the biggest compliments you could pay a man was that he could hold his drink and they took a pride in not appearing to have drunk to excess, even if they had. You always had the odd old soak (hence the role in comedies of the time) but the scenes that are common at night in town centres these day were unheard of.

Don't forget, pubs closed at 2230 at the latest and you couldn't buy alcohol in supermarkets until well into the 60s.

ETA

To quote from your link.

" the consumption of beer has increased from 151.6 pints per head per annum in 1960 to 175.1 in 1995 (with a peak of 217.1 in 1979); cider from 2.9 pints per head per annum to 15.3; spirits (at 100% alcohol) from 1.25 to 2.25 pints per head per annum; and wine from four pints to a remarkable 25.5 pints per head per annum. It is the immediate juxtaposition between current habits and recollections of a temperate, pre-1960s Britain that makes, perhaps, current drinking habits seem especially disconcerting."

ukcarper

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Not sure people do now to be honest!

What evidence do you have to state otherwise? Or are you just guessing that everyone saving a deposit these days splurges their hard eaned on foreign holidays?

I don't fail to "grasp" anything. You are just stating your (IMHO) misguided opinion on everyone who's a younger than you and I don't agree with it. Stating a bigoted opinion
doesn't mean it's true.

Then why do you keep bringing up the point that people spent money on certain things in the past. You have ignored the main points I made ie people living with parents until they got married and the way earnings have outstripped RPI. The fact still remains that for every £100 someone earned in the 70s they will be earning the equivalent of £170 now with the cost of living unchanged.

ukcarper

Generali wrote: »

My Dad was a young man in the 50s and 60s and he said it used to be a bit of a laugh if you had to be helped to your car. People clearly did drink to excess.

There are plenty of Ealing comedies and other films of the time showing people drunk. Let's not pretend that the British were abstemious up until 1985 or something. It's rubbish.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmhealth/151/151we19.htm

Basically the increase in drinking from the 1960s is the advent of women being accepted in pubs.

People did drink in the 60s and young people did get drunk but not as often as now and the sights you see in most night streets at the weekend didn't happen.

chucknorris

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Don't forget, pubs closed at 2230 at the latest and you couldn't buy alcohol in supermarkets until well into the 60s.

I remember how annoying it was after working late (which I often did, soon after graduating in the 90's) and getting home just after 11pm and it was too late to get a couple of beers. I could never see why it was OK for someone not working to spend all day drinking, but it was so wrong for someone who had worked from 9am to after 10pm to have a couple of beers after work.