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  • Martyn1981
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    ABrass said:
    Another big batt for the UK.

    UK developer Exagen submits application for 500MW/1,000MWh battery storage project

    Exagen has submitted plans for a 500MW/1GWh battery storage project to Blaby District Council, in the Midlands region of England, UK.

    Situated in Leicestershire, the Normanton Energy Reserve will be created across 19 acres, have a capacity of 500MW/1GWh and be capable of providing enough power for 80% of the homes in the county.

    I'm not sure that's fair, isn't that the largest battery announced by far?
    Could be, I've lost track, so wasn't sure if it might have been posted/mentioned before at some point. There are two Scottish batts being built at 400MW/800MWh each, so depending on definitions ......?

    Hopefully the title will be taken, over and over again.  :)
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  • Coastalwatch
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    At 16.55 National Grid Live reporting Wind at 19.88 GW, Emissions 74 g/kWh, price £17.10/MWh! Impressive stuff eh!
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  • 1961Nick
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    edited 12 January 2023 at 7:53PM
    At 16.55 National Grid Live reporting Wind at 19.88 GW, Emissions 74 g/kWh, price £17.10/MWh! Impressive stuff eh!
    Have you got a link for that information?

    EDIT: Found it. https://grid.iamkate.com/
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  • 1961Nick said:
    At 16.55 National Grid Live reporting Wind at 19.88 GW, Emissions 74 g/kWh, price £17.10/MWh! Impressive stuff eh!
    Have you got a link for that information?

    EDIT: Found it. https://grid.iamkate.com/
    Glad you found it Nick, an hour or so later while wind and emissions had remained fairly stable the price had rocketted to around £190/MWh!

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  • That's some battery pack to power one of these beasties, equal to four Tesla Megapacks! But with it being a hybrid it may only use batteries for coming into/out of port and assisting with power during the voyage. Unfortunately the article doesn't appear to elaborate on that matter so I might be unduly cautious and doing it a disservice!
    I wonder how long it will take to recharge!

    Leclanché batteries to power huge hybrid vessels

    Leclanché says it has been selected as the battery provider for two hybrid vessels built for Stena Line and Brittany Ferries. The ‘E-Flexer’ ferries will be the world’s largest hybrid vessels and run between England and France with deliveries to progress fast.

    Leclanché is expected to deliver its battery system in 2024 and 2025, and each battery system has a capacity of 11.3 MWh and a max current of 940 Volt, so the manufacturer. This appears to go even beyond initial data the Swiss company had released when first presenting its latest-gen battery system Navius MRS-3TM in June 2022 as reported.

    Leclanché has already been selected for several other large-scale projects, including providing 10 MWh of capacity for Scandlines’ PR24 hybrid cargo ferry. At the time of the order, it was the world’s largest hybrid ferry, as well as the Yara Birkeland, the world’s first autonomous and fully electric container ship, in which Leclanché batteries are involved.

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  • EricMears
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    That's some battery pack to power one of these beasties, equal to four Tesla Megapacks! But with it being a hybrid it may only use batteries for coming into/out of port and assisting with power during the voyage. Unfortunately the article doesn't appear to elaborate on that matter so I might be unduly cautious and doing it a disservice!
    I wonder how long it will take to recharge!

    Leclanché batteries to power huge hybrid vessels

    Leclanché says it has been selected as the battery provider for two hybrid vessels built for Stena Line and Brittany Ferries. The ‘E-Flexer’ ferries will be the world’s largest hybrid vessels and run between England and France with deliveries to progress fast.

    Leclanché is expected to deliver its battery system in 2024 and 2025, and each battery system has a capacity of 11.3 MWh and a max current of 940 Volt, so the manufacturer. This appears to go even beyond initial data the Swiss company had released when first presenting its latest-gen battery system Navius MRS-3TM in June 2022 as reported.

    Leclanché has already been selected for several other large-scale projects, including providing 10 MWh of capacity for Scandlines’ PR24 hybrid cargo ferry. At the time of the order, it was the world’s largest hybrid ferry, as well as the Yara Birkeland, the world’s first autonomous and fully electric container ship, in which Leclanché batteries are involved.

    " The ‘E-Flexer’ ferries will be the world’s largest hybrid vessels"    ?

    Possibly biggest battery powered ones but I'd have described either of our two new aircraft carriers as 'hybrids'  (what else would you call it when a diesel generator is running electrically powered propellers ?) and they're quite a bit bigger than the new ferries.
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  • EricMears said:
    That's some battery pack to power one of these beasties, equal to four Tesla Megapacks! But with it being a hybrid it may only use batteries for coming into/out of port and assisting with power during the voyage. Unfortunately the article doesn't appear to elaborate on that matter so I might be unduly cautious and doing it a disservice!
    I wonder how long it will take to recharge!

    Leclanché batteries to power huge hybrid vessels

    Leclanché says it has been selected as the battery provider for two hybrid vessels built for Stena Line and Brittany Ferries. The ‘E-Flexer’ ferries will be the world’s largest hybrid vessels and run between England and France with deliveries to progress fast.

    Leclanché is expected to deliver its battery system in 2024 and 2025, and each battery system has a capacity of 11.3 MWh and a max current of 940 Volt, so the manufacturer. This appears to go even beyond initial data the Swiss company had released when first presenting its latest-gen battery system Navius MRS-3TM in June 2022 as reported.

    Leclanché has already been selected for several other large-scale projects, including providing 10 MWh of capacity for Scandlines’ PR24 hybrid cargo ferry. At the time of the order, it was the world’s largest hybrid ferry, as well as the Yara Birkeland, the world’s first autonomous and fully electric container ship, in which Leclanché batteries are involved.

    " The ‘E-Flexer’ ferries will be the world’s largest hybrid vessels"    ?

    Possibly biggest battery powered ones but I'd have described either of our two new aircraft carriers as 'hybrids'  (what else would you call it when a diesel generator is running electrically powered propellers ?) and they're quite a bit bigger than the new ferries.
    Sorry Eric can't agree with you there, it's permanently burning fossil fuel in order to create the necessary power for propulsion. Don't follow your logic at all there!

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  • Martyn1981
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    I thought hybrid meant more than one power source, whereas loads of large vehicles are diesel electric, like trains and earth movers.

    Not sure where range extenders sit, as they power the battery/electric motors, not the wheels, maybe they sit somewhere between, hence the BEV + Rx designation?
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  • Screwdriva
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    "Mission Zero" the government's report on Net Zero has been published here
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  • Coastalwatch
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    Thanks for posting SD, it's only 340 pages so forgive me for just reading the opening statement and conclusion. It's encouraging to learn that the most cost effective way to net Zero is sooner rather than later and to lead rather than follow, so lets hope that governent takes action upon it's own report forthwith. Otherwise it may have to be renamed Missing Zero instead!
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