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Correlation between Unemployment and House Prices

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  • Blacklight
    Blacklight Posts: 1,565 Forumite
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    From the ONS:

    The average for FTB's in 2007....

    Income = £42,000
    Mortgage Advance = £127,000 (LTV = 82%)
    Purchase Price = £154,000

    And the average for Q1 2015...

    Income = £48,000
    Mortgage Advance = £152,000 (LTV = 75%)
    Purchase Price = £202,000

    For home movers in 2007...

    Income = £61,000
    Mortgage Advance = £159,000 (LTV = 78%)
    Purchase Price = £203,000

    For home movers in Q1 2015

    Income = £72,000
    Mortgage Advance = £199,000 (LTV = 61%)
    Purchase Price = £321,000



    So the average Loan to Value has reduced while prices have increased, leading to markedly higher deposits for both FTB and Movers, in quite a significant way since the credit crunch.

    There is little doubt property is consolidating in the hands of a wealthier but smaller percentage of society.

    And that ongoing credit restrictions are also worsening the housing shortage and so indirectly driving up both prices and rents.

    The question is, what comes next? (Another boom in prices now looks baked in, but what else?)

    LIES! We don't care about the facts here, we just want to know how things compare to the average of everything!
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    edited 25 May 2015 at 10:40AM
    Blacklight wrote: »
    LIES! We don't care about the facts here,

    Heh... Then you're on the wrong website.

    For that approach try hpc.... ;)

    Speaking of which, I guess the OP does explain why the usual suspects were so very gleeful back when unemployment was rising... distasteful as it is that anyone could celebrate misery like that at least their suspicions of links to unemployment and house prices had some basis in fact.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • The-Joker
    The-Joker Posts: 718 Forumite
    what messes up the numbers is all the part timers and self employed who are really relying on the gov, they may as well be unemployed.
    The thing about chaos is, it's fair.
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    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • CLAPTON
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    presumably it tells us that immigrants tend to go to areas where there are jobs.

    with the new wall of immigration we can expect higher price in London and the places where there are jobs.

    unemployment stats are not a very useful guide to actual employment opportunities due to our mad benefits system.
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