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Next door's conservatory...

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  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    !!!!!! wrote: »
    It is NOT a party wall. Unless I have misread the OP then the wall abuts the boundary I.E. the whole structure is completely on the neighbours property tight to the boundary. This does not make it a party wall.

    However the Party Wall Act may come in to force for any work required on the boundary due to the closeness of the building.

    :o I did say I hadn't read too carefully, but didn't this conservatory replace a party fence wall?
  • MrsFingersCrossed
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    Yes, the original garden wall was removed. The centre of the garden wall is the boundary. The conservatory was built to the exact boundary line - ie there is a small dog-leg where the wall now begins, with a raw brick edge on our side, the conservatory wall adjoins their side of the brick wall. We could put a fence post next to our raw bit, and fill in the missing bit to our house wall with trellis / fence / brick wall / extension. But just because we can doesn't mean we will.
    As a fan of THE NUMBER THREAD, our NUMBER IS £22,000 a year = FREEDOM
    Amended 2019 - new NUMBER is approx £27k pa nett (touch wood)
    Amended 2021 - new NUMBER is approx £29k pa nett - heading that way...fingers crossed!
  • DRP
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    Yes, the original garden wall was removed. The centre of the garden wall is the boundary. The conservatory was built to the exact boundary line - ie there is a small dog-leg where the wall now begins, with a raw brick edge on our side, the conservatory wall adjoins their side of the brick wall. We could put a fence post next to our raw bit, and fill in the missing bit to our house wall with trellis / fence / brick wall / extension. But just because we can doesn't mean we will.

    OP, what kind of inconsiderate idiot neighbour builds a conservatory in such a manner?

    If the current owners installed this conservatory, then i would be very wary of the type of people you're going to be moving in next to...
  • MrsFingersCrossed
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    It is a concern DRP. I've just checked the Land Registry and the house next door is not listed which means they've been there a long time and it probably was them that built it. I'm not exactly losing sleep over it but we are now telling ourselves if it doesn't work out and we can't be happy with the situation (or neighbours) we will do it up and sell it in a couple of years.


    We've been where we are for nigh on 30 years, with lovely agreeable neighbours so it's all a bit a bit daunting. Also moving from a detached house with completely private garden to a semi like this - we're downsizing so knew we'd have to compromise and this is the compromise here.
    As a fan of THE NUMBER THREAD, our NUMBER IS £22,000 a year = FREEDOM
    Amended 2019 - new NUMBER is approx £27k pa nett (touch wood)
    Amended 2021 - new NUMBER is approx £29k pa nett - heading that way...fingers crossed!
  • Dan-Dan
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    It is a concern DRP. I've just checked the Land Registry and the house next door is not listed which means they've been there a long time and it probably was them that built it. I'm not exactly losing sleep over it but we are now telling ourselves if it doesn't work out and we can't be happy with the situation (or neighbours) we will do it up and sell it in a couple of years.


    We've been where we are for nigh on 30 years, with lovely agreeable neighbours so it's all a bit a bit daunting. Also moving from a detached house with completely private garden to a semi like this - we're downsizing so knew we'd have to compromise and this is the compromise here.


    Money to burn?
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  • MrsFingersCrossed
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    No, Dan-Dan. That's why we are downsizing.
    As a fan of THE NUMBER THREAD, our NUMBER IS £22,000 a year = FREEDOM
    Amended 2019 - new NUMBER is approx £27k pa nett (touch wood)
    Amended 2021 - new NUMBER is approx £29k pa nett - heading that way...fingers crossed!
  • Dan-Dan
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    No, Dan-Dan. That's why we are downsizing.

    doing up and selling on in 2 years is going to cost a small fortune after taking into account SD , sols costs etc etc
    Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
  • teddysmum
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    A way to approach the neighbours and so put your mind at rest, regarding their attitude, would be to tell them that your surveyor/lender or such has commented on the odd situation of a partial glass boundary, albeit opaque, and has suggested that you erect some kind of screen, as this makes your property look odd.


    Tell them what changes you propose and say that you assume that they won't mind. ie Infer that you expect them to agree with you.


    The fact that they will be unable to maintain your side of the conservatory is their problem, as people usually leave a gap, for this, between conservatory and boundary line.
  • DRP
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    teddysmum wrote: »
    A way to approach the neighbours and so put your mind at rest, regarding their attitude, would be to tell them that your surveyor/lender or such has commented on the odd situation of a partial glass boundary, albeit opaque, and has suggested that you erect some kind of screen, as this makes your property look odd.


    Tell them what changes you propose and say that you assume that they won't mind. ie Infer that you expect them to agree with you.


    The fact that they will be unable to maintain your side of the conservatory is their problem, as people usually leave a gap, for this, between conservatory and boundary line.

    YEs that sounds like a good idea - less confrontational as you can pass the 'blame' onto the surveyor... maybe suggest the lender has asked for extra information on how the conserv is constructed relative to the party wall etc etc anything to get the conversation going without directly coming out with "we're gonna block your light"
  • Davesnave
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    Yes, the original garden wall was removed. The centre of the garden wall is the boundary. The conservatory was built to the exact boundary line - ie there is a small dog-leg where the wall now begins, with a raw brick edge on our side, the conservatory wall adjoins their side of the brick wall. We could put a fence post next to our raw bit, and fill in the missing bit to our house wall with trellis / fence / brick wall / extension. But just because we can doesn't mean we will.

    Thanks for that. I must read more carefully in future. :o

    This still means some of the foundations are on your land. As others have said,it speaks reams about the attitude, imagination and foresight of the people who did this.
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