Need some advice on strike action

TrickyDicky101

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Possibly, possibly not. for example they could be getting agency staff ready for that day so are mitigating their costs.

Whilst Southend1 has indicated using agency workers would not be an option, your point is still valid. If, due to a shortened day because of the strike action, a full production run could not be completed (for instance) then it might make sense to not start the production run at all.

samsung_laptop

gingerdad wrote: »

hopefully they'll just sack you and all the other strikers

What would you do if you got your 20 days holiday entitlement for the year so you go and book a holiday then a few months later your told by the works you got to take your holiday entitlement when they tell you to so if you pre booked any holidays and you don't have enough holidays left you got to take the days off without pay.

Undervalued

samsung_laptop wrote: »

What would you do if you got your 20 days holiday entitlement for the year so you go and book a holiday then a few months later your told by the works you got to take your holiday entitlement when they tell you to so if you pre booked any holidays and you don't have enough holidays left you got to take the days off without pay.

Whilst very annoying, what you describe is not actually unlawful.

With very few limits indeed an employer can dictate when you can and cannot take your holiday.

If they allow you to book some holiday then cancel it you MIGHT under some circumstances have a claim against them if this causes any unrecoverable losses. Like any such claim you would have a duty to minimise the losses as far as reasonably possible.

gingerdad

samsung_laptop wrote: »

What would you do if you got your 20 days holiday entitlement for the year so you go and book a holiday then a few months later your told by the works you got to take your holiday entitlement when they tell you to so if you pre booked any holidays and you don't have enough holidays left you got to take the days off without pay.

I get 20 days holiday and get no choice when i book it so, that is life.

Takeaway_Addict

TrickyDicky101 wrote: »

Whilst Southend1 has indicated using agency workers would not be an option, your point is still valid. If, due to a shortened day because of the strike action, a full production run could not be completed (for instance) then it might make sense to not start the production run at all.

Yes I agree but perhaps the employer hire X agency staff in to replace those staff not striking and move those staff into the striking staff roles, thus circumnavigating the issue.

Southend1

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Yes I agree but perhaps the employer hire X agency staff in to replace those staff not striking and move those staff into the striking staff roles, thus circumnavigating the issue.

I expect that would also be unlawful as it's a pretty obvious loophole. Perhaps someone with better legal knowledge than me can clarify.

Southend1

gingerdad wrote: »

I get 20 days holiday and get no choice when i book it so, that is life.

Perhaps you would be able to achieve better terms and conditions if you joined together with your colleagues in a union to negotiate collectively rather than individually with your employer?

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

gingerdad wrote: »

I get 20 days holiday and get no choice when i book it so, that is life.

There are so many things wrong with that statement, but first of all, bear in mind that you only get 20 days holiday at all because of other people's industrial action in the past.

gingerdad

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

There are so many things wrong with that statement, but first of all, bear in mind that you only get 20 days holiday at all because of other people's industrial action in the past.

I'm more than happy where I work and with my T&C's - over the years i've had a few dealings with unions all have proven to be a total waste of time and money.

Southend1

gingerdad wrote: »

I'm more than happy where I work and with my T&C's - over the years i've had a few dealings with unions all have proven to be a total waste of time and money.

But as already pointed put by another poster, you wouldn't even get your 20 days if it weren't for fellow workers who joined together in a union in years past.