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New free solar panels

Thanks Martin :money: you said I could get free solar panels and today I did
:T
Ok got 25 year contract but my roof is now earning me money and it's good for the environment
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  • JimLad
    JimLad Posts: 950 Forumite
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    spamus wrote: »
    Thanks Martin :money: you said I could get free solar panels and today I did
    :T
    Ok got 25 year contract but my roof is now earning me money and it's good for the environment

    Its earning you money? Dont the people that supply the panels pocket the FIT payment?
    Mortgage Free 22/03/17
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  • pinnks
    pinnks Posts: 1,606 Forumite
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    Correct. Fee panels mean free electricity but not feed-in-tariff. non-free panels means you get both. Simples.
  • spamus
    spamus Posts: 11 Forumite
    As Pinnks said I won't get any money just the power it produces if I use it.
    As long as you understand and are happy/ok with this the deal is fine if you have and issues with this don't do it the contract is for 25 years and you can't get out of it which is a bit hard to understand!
    But it works for me as for others using a lender who sells loans with 1200% interest
    Which I must say I don't understand why
  • tunnel
    tunnel Posts: 2,601 Forumite
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    Care to explain whether you've bought the panels with a loan or it is indeed RaR because how you're explaining makes no sense whatsoever
    RaR is only for 20 years as that's the length of the FiT, why would you sign a deal for 25yrs?
    2 kWp SEbE , 2kWp SSW & 2.5kWp NWbW.....in sunny North Derbyshire17.7kWh Givenergy battery added(for the power hungry kids)
  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,649 Forumite
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    tunnel wrote: »
    Care to explain whether you've bought the panels with a loan or it is indeed RaR because how you're explaining makes no sense whatsoever
    RaR is only for 20 years as that's the length of the FiT, why would you sign a deal for 25yrs?

    Hiya T. I've pondered the same having seen '25yrs' pop up in a few posts. I think the RaR firms are leasing the air space for 25 years.

    Not sure if that makes a difference though, after all if you are going to sign up, then perhaps 25yrs of maintenance* and leccy is better than 20 ....... unless you'd planned to move in year 21! ;)

    * You could argue that after the FiT ends, they may lose interest and fail to fix a fault (inverter failure etc) in year 21, losing you the free leccy. But presumably that would be a breach of the contract ....... assuming it's a fair contract.

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 28kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • tunnel
    tunnel Posts: 2,601 Forumite
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    Thanks for clearing that up Mart, seems a little bizarre offering 25 year leases when they're only earning for 20. Maybe that's the price for placing the panels I don't know.
    Wonder if they are expecting export meters to come into force,there's a hell of a lot of RaRs around,maybe they believe they may be able to negotiate a deal after the original 20 years are up, who knows?
    2 kWp SEbE , 2kWp SSW & 2.5kWp NWbW.....in sunny North Derbyshire17.7kWh Givenergy battery added(for the power hungry kids)
  • EricMears
    EricMears Posts: 3,326 Forumite
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    tunnel wrote: »
    Thanks for clearing that up Mart, seems a little bizarre offering 25 year leases when they're only earning for 20.
    If there's anyone greedier than RaR firms, it's probably solicitors :D No doubt there would have been a charge for re-writing the leases and it's likely to have been a lot more than the actual cost of using a word processor to delete the words "twenty five" and figures "25" and replacing them with "twenty" & "20".

    There's also the point that it's always possible (no matter how improbable) that there might be some advantage in having the extra 5 years at end of contract so certainly not worth paying anything to remove that potential benefit .
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • Sterlingtimes
    Sterlingtimes Posts: 2,578 Forumite
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    The lessee of the roof may be able to remove the panels after 20 years or sell the panels to the lessor of the roof for a small sum in consideration of the benefit that the lessor would have for five years. There is surely an option in here somewhere.
    I have osteoarthritis in my hands so I speak my messages into a microphone using Dragon. Some people make "typos" but I often make "speakos".
  • tunnel
    tunnel Posts: 2,601 Forumite
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    The lessee of the roof may be able to remove the panels after 20 years or sell the panels to the lessor of the roof for a small sum in consideration of the benefit that the lessor would have for five years. There is surely an option in here somewhere.
    I was under the impression that after 20 years the system was handed over to the home owner(for nowt) so can't quite grasp why they'd continue a lease for another 5 years beyond that.
    2 kWp SEbE , 2kWp SSW & 2.5kWp NWbW.....in sunny North Derbyshire17.7kWh Givenergy battery added(for the power hungry kids)
  • EricMears
    EricMears Posts: 3,326 Forumite
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    tunnel wrote: »
    I was under the impression .....
    In the RaR world, lots of people are given the impression that they're being offered something better than is actually on offer !
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
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