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Guarantor on bike finance

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My brother is looking to get a new bike on finance but needs a guarantor, possibly because he has only just turned 18, he asked my dad but his credit score is too low so i offered. I technically earn enough to cover payments if he defaulted, though my dad assured me he would cover it, but will my low annual income affect it? What are they looking for in a guarantor?
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 35,242 Forumite
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    They're looking for someone with a decent credit history and who earns enough to pay the loan back when the initial applicant stops paying.

    Some may require you to be a homeowner, so they can take your house from you if you also decide not to pay.

    It's not an offer most people would want to take up.
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    He's not failed because of his age, he's failed because he has poor or zero credit history.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • dealer_wins
    dealer_wins Posts: 7,334 Forumite
    Dont do it, this can possibly lead to you, your father and your brother falling out and not talking for decades!
  • Marktheshark
    Marktheshark Posts: 5,841 Forumite
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    tell him to save up and buy a second hand one, starting life in debt is the worst start he can make.
    I do Contracts, all day every day.
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    What they are looking for in a guarantor is someone else who is legally liable for the entire debt in case of default. If you are content to be in that position, and can pay, then go ahead.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    the chances are the companies he is looking at are all very high APR , try looking for the same loan under your name/credit record and take the loan out , and make him pay you


    if he regales on a loan at 49%APR , you will have to pay it


    if he regales on the loan to you , you will have to pay far less
  • Nasqueron
    Nasqueron Posts: 10,678 Forumite
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    macman wrote: »
    What they are looking for in a guarantor is someone else who is legally liable for the entire debt in case of default when they default. If you are content to be in that position, and can pay, then go ahead.

    Corrected that.

    There is a reason people with poor credit need a guarantor for this sort of thing as they know they will not pay the bills.

    OP - don't do it, no need for him to get an expensive new bike on credit - he's 18, will probably crash it after a week - tell him to save up and buy a second hand one

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • Caz3121
    Caz3121 Posts: 15,833 Forumite
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    Geknock wrote: »
    My brother is looking to get a new bike on finance but needs a guarantor, possibly because he has only just turned 18,
    what is his income and how much does he have in savings? if he is not able to save on a monthly basis with his income, how will he pay the loan repayments?
    Better to stick with the bike he has and put the loan repayment money into a savings account until he can afford to replace the bike
  • andyfromotley
    andyfromotley Posts: 2,038 Forumite
    Every week, indeed sometimes every day, people come on here posting,

    'I was a guarantor form my brother/mum/girlfriends car. They wrote it off it was worth a fiver but the loan is still for 10k, they won't pay it and the finance company expect me to!!'

    Dont do this.

    Your brother doesn't need a Guarantor.

    He needs a savings account.
    £1000 Emergency fund No90 £1000/1000
    LBM 28/1/15 total debt - [STRIKE]£23,410[/STRIKE] 24/3/16 total debt - £7,298
    !
  • paddyrg
    paddyrg Posts: 13,543 Forumite
    Can you take out a loan for the full cost of the motorbike and give the bike to your brother, and ask him to pay you back over x months? Does that sound like a good plan? That's exactly what you're effectively doing by acting as a guarantor, but you're also overpaying for the privilege - higher interest rates and arrangement fees.

    Put it like this, the company wants a guarantor because they believe your brother won't pay them back the full amount and will default - so they will come after your assets instead.
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