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  • jonesMUFCforever
    jonesMUFCforever Posts: 28,898 Forumite
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    We got a cheque for the PPI so the loan should be based on 25k over 240 months at 8.9% apr.

    Think the interest may have been calculated using rule of 78. Is that still legally applicable after the 2010 ruling?

    Thanks

    Well there you go then - problem solved!
    You are still paying the PPI part of the loan because the PPI was not refunded back to the loan.
    eg Loan £25k + PPi say £5k = £30k debt
    Loan £25k +PPi £5k =£30k debt less ppi refunded to you =£30k loan debt still o/s.
    What did you do with the cheque refund?
  • molerat
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    edited 29 March 2015 at 6:06PM
    Very clever of them, give the PPI back instead of deducting it from the balance so they can continue charging you £45 per month interest on it.
  • amersall
    amersall Posts: 17,035 Forumite
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    molerat wrote: »
    Very clever of them, give the PPI back instead of deducting it from the balance so they can continue charging you £45 per month interest on it.
    Indeed, it is win win for these shysters :mad:.
  • Nasqueron
    Nasqueron Posts: 10,630 Forumite
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    Did you use the PPI refund to pay off a chunk of the loan or did you just assume it was taken off the loan and spent it elsewhere?

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • pvt
    pvt Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    When did you get the PPI refund, and how much was it? You should have been given the capital amount of the PPI plus whatever interest you had paid on it up till the point it was paid back to you.

    Madness to take it as a cheque and spend it, it should have all been applied to the loan, and you should have had the option to either keep the same term and pay less per month, or pay the same per month and finish paying the loan sooner.
    Optimists see a glass half full :)
    Pessimists see a glass half empty :(
    Engineers just see a glass twice the size it needed to be :D
  • Hi,

    Thanks to all for replies, I received the cheque and used it to settle some other debts I had at the time. I will challenge the amount that the interest has been calculated on. Am currently waiting for confirmation on how they work out their interest payable - I want them to state that they are using rule of 78 so I can challenge it.

    Will keep you posted!

    Scott
  • Oh and also, I just receive the PPI amount that had been added of 6122, but I think that had 8% interest added on by the PPI company. I of course lost all of that with their 25% commission.

    I was so green back then...

    Thanks

    Scott
  • Nasqueron
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    Oh and also, I just receive the PPI amount that had been added of 6122, but I think that had 8% interest added on by the PPI company. I of course lost all of that with their 25% commission.

    I was so green back then...

    Thanks

    Scott

    While PPI companies are never a good idea, in this case you at least were able to pay the PPI company, had the finance company simply removed the PPI from the loan and recalculated it you would have been billed by the PPI company on top of that - which is why you should always steer clear (and probably why the PPI company didn't ask for that). I have no idea if you could put in a complaint about the PPI company doing that but it might be worth a go as you are basically still paying for the PPI on the loan.

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

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