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Parent's Pension - are children eligible

Hi all

My father died last week (81 years) - phoned his pension company to stop his pension. They informed us that his children/grand children may be eligible for benefits?. We need to complete a" supplementary special circumstances form" - and state what circumstances surrounding other beneficiaries that were dependent on the deceased?

Has my father lived with and contributed to paying the bills - could this be a valid reason or why do we need justify, if surplus pension funds are still outstanding?


Any advise will be great full

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  • jem16
    jem16 Posts: 19,844 Forumite
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    Toshi wrote: »
    Has my father lived with and contributed to paying the bills - could this be a valid reason or why do we need justify, if surplus pension funds are still outstanding?

    The answer to this depends on what type of pension it is - ie was it Defined Benefit?

    When children/grandchildren are involved it usually means that they are dependent on the Pensioner and are still in full-time education.

    Much depends on the rules of the scheme.
  • Toshi_2
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    Hi Jem16 - thanks you for your quick reply.

    I need to find out the type of pension - tomorrow.

    We lived my with father in share house, unfortunately we are all adults and am still single(but shared the cost of running the house) and grand children are in full time - education below theage of 18 at the time of their grand -dad death.

    According to pension statement - it says -"if you die without a leaving legal widow or widower, the Trustees may at discretion pay a pension to a surviving partner or to someone who was financially dependent on you"

    Thanks in advance
  • jem16
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    Toshi wrote: »
    According to pension statement - it says -"if you die without a leaving legal widow or widower, the Trustees may at discretion pay a pension to a surviving partner or to someone who was financially dependent on you"

    Thanks in advance

    I can't see you being financially dependent on your father but you never know.
  • Toshi_2
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    Hi Jem16

    The pension is - Defined deferred benefit pension
  • atush
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    So, did your father contribute to the household expenses? In such measure (ie 50% or more) that the grandchildren may be considered his dependents?

    That would be the only argument I can see for a DB pension. Write a letter to the trustees.

    Otherwise you and your children wont inherit anything from his pension and have to be satisfied with the contents of his estate.
  • Toshi_2
    Toshi_2 Posts: 25 Forumite
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    Hi Atush

    Thanks - Already completed forms forward by pension company.

    They advised us that the children/grand-children might be eligible.
    would be nice to know the balance reminding the pension?

    or it disappears towards some one fat bonus
  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
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    no it does not work like that. first there is no 'pot' if it is a DB pension. Which is essentially a promise to pay you a certain % of your final salary for the rest of your life.

    Second, money from people who die young, subsidizes the payments to those who die really old. Not to bonuses.
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