Countersigning a child's passport

I am in the process of renewing my kids' passports and I am a bit stumped over the countersignatory. Would it be OK to use my mum? She has a different surname to my children and is a retired teacher - so yes she is a relative but not an immediate one.

The only other option is to either pay the GP a fortune to do it or to ask one of the school teachers - but this would require them to provide their own passport number, which would no doubt be a bit of a hassle for them.
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  • sandsy
    sandsy Posts: 1,748 Forumite
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    That wouldn't work. It can't be a relative and that includes in-laws and step- parents, according to this document:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/118585/countersignatories.pdf

    Remember too that the counter signatory is saying they've known you for at least 2 years, not the kids.

    Are there no other suitable school parents who you've known long enough?
  • onlyroz
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    How would they know whether the signatory was a relative?
  • benjus
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    edited 3 March 2015 at 3:52PM
    onlyroz wrote: »
    How would they know whether the signatory was a relative?

    The countersignatory has to declare how they know you and for how long; making a false declaration is a serious offence.

    It's not much of a stretch of the imagination to think that the passport office could find out if they wanted to. Presumably you have a passport yourself, and would have put your mother's details on your passport application. I don't know if these sorts of checks are done as a matter of course, but it wouldn't surprise me - almost everyone has family members with different surnames (and of course people with a common surname may use a totally unrelated countersignatory with the same surname).
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  • Paully232000
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    Don't you have to also say in what capacity you know this person?
  • gardner1
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    onlyroz wrote: »
    I am in the process of renewing my kids' passports and I am a bit stumped over the countersignatory. Would it be OK to use my mum? She has a different surname to my children and is a retired teacher - so yes she is a relative but not an immediate one.

    The only other option is to either pay the GP a fortune to do it or to ask one of the school teachers - but this would require them to provide their own passport number, which would no doubt be a bit of a hassle for them.

    I thought if you are renewing a passport you just send form with old passport and there is no need for counter signature
  • thriftylass
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    I asked my boss to do it and he did. He met my kids and known me for three years. No problems.
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  • pollypenny
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    I think you need a countersignature if your appearance has changed considerably, which it would have with a child.
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  • onlyroz
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    gardner1 wrote: »
    I thought if you are renewing a passport you just send form with old passport and there is no need for counter signature
    Children under 11 need a countersignature regardless if they're renewing or not.
  • onlyroz
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    Don't you have to also say in what capacity you know this person?
    The declaration says that they have to have known *me* for two years and they have to be able to identify my children. I don't know if this means that they have to have met in person.
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