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Switching for a 10 years fixed rate? Not only for money

Hi there,
New to this forum.
I am 3 years into a 5 years fixed rate @ 3.79% with around £115,000 left to pay (and a hefty £5700 ERC even if I stay with my lender Nationwide) BUT I am fearing coming out of the 5 years fixed rate in 2 years time and I am tempted to re-mortgage now for peace of mind. I have done my maths and I am not saving anything if I add the ERC to my monthly repayments over the course of 10 years. The Nationwide 10 years no fee fixed rate is currently 2.94%. I thought about switching now (i.e. before the general elections) but the ERC really are putting me off so I would prefer to wait a bit so the ERC decreases. If anyone either can give me their opinion/advice (or better still have a crystal ball!), I'd be much grateful.
Thanks
PS: my property bought £185K 10 years ago is now worth at least £320K; ideally I'd like to move in the next 5 years to get an extra room
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  • amnblog
    amnblog Posts: 12,761 Forumite
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    What do you imagine is going to happen if you don't fix to 2025 now?
    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Will the NW allow you to add the ERC to the new mortgage?

    A question that needs answering.

    If you are looking to move in the future then overpay your mortgage now and start saving interest. Also you'll be building equity.
  • To amnblog'
    What do you imagine is going to happen if you don't fix to 2025 now?' much higher interest rates than 2.94%? WWIII? I think times are uncertain so I don't know what to expect. What do you think may happen?

    To Thrugelmir: '
    Will the NW allow you to add the ERC to the new mortgage' no, money will come from my saving. Tried to negotiate a lower ERC but they didn't budge

    PS: don't know (yet) how to do quotes! Never got on a forum that much before, sorry
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    £115k @3.79% ERC £5700 2 years to go

    10y fix 2.94% ( moving in 5y make this a new risk)

    You don't say what full term but lets go with 20y

    1. £115000 @ 3.79% £685pm
    2. £120700 @ 2.94% £666pm

    pay £685 on both after 2 years

    1. £106990
    2. £111090 still £4100 down.

    After 10 years
    2 £66470

    in 2 years you need a switch to a rate below 3.59% what are the 5 year rates like now will they go up to that?
  • Jhoney_2
    Jhoney_2 Posts: 1,198 Forumite
    BBG2015 wrote: »
    To amnblog'
    What do you imagine is going to happen if you don't fix to 2025 now?' much higher interest rates than 2.94%? WWIII? I think times are uncertain so I don't know what to expect. What do you think may happen?

    To Thrugelmir: '
    Will the NW allow you to add the ERC to the new mortgage' no, money will come from my saving. Tried to negotiate a lower ERC but they didn't budge

    PS: don't know (yet) how to do quotes! Never got on a forum that much before, sorry

    Go to the posters response on the thread that you wish to reply to and click on the quote bubble at the bottom.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    edited 26 February 2015 at 3:16PM
    probably better to model
    Stay put 2 years with 3y fix to follow
    against
    a new 5y fix with the penalty

    to tie in with a possible move.

    whats the max penalty free overpayment pm on the current deal
    (to model overpayments as you are paying the fees up front)
  • Jhoney wrote: »
    Go to the posters response on the thread that you wish to reply to and click on the quote bubble at the bottom.

    Got it, thanks
  • in 2 years you need a switch to a rate below 3.59% what are the 5 year rates like now will they go up to that?[/QUOTE]
    So I should wait and switch then rather than now (if available, which is rather hypothetical)? Best 5y fixed now (no fee) is 2.49%

    When I first got a mortgage interest rates were 4.59% and we thought they were great! (that was the deal before the one I am on now)

    Wouldn't it be safer (even if I just break even) to switch now for 10 years?
  • probably better to model
    Stay put 2 years with 3y fix to follow
    against
    a new 5y fix with the penalty

    to tie in with a possible move.

    whats the max penalty free overpayment pm on the current deal
    (to model overpayments as you are paying the fees up front)
    I am after a 10y not 5y
    I can repay £500/m without penalty
  • pjread
    pjread Posts: 1,106 Forumite
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    BBG2015 wrote: »
    I am after a 10y not 5y
    I can repay £500/m without penalty
    Why are you after a 10 year fix, if you are expecting/planning to move in 5 years?
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