We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Pension drawdown strategy

2»

Comments

  • digannio
    digannio Posts: 344 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    jamesd... do you mean way better than the annuity income level that I quoted? If so, what sort of figure would we be talking about?
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 28 February 2015 at 12:03AM
    For those who reach state pension age before the flat rate comes in, 10.4% with 50-70% inheritable by a spouse. After that, 5.8% not inheritable. All inflation-protected.

    Those are the raw rates, you also have to allow for the missed annuity income for a year and that reduces the percentage a little, more as the number of years deferred or time until starting deferring increases. I don't know your age so I'll pretend that you are one year from state pension age and that the annuity would pay £1,500 plus that you would have £8,000 of state pension eventually.

    Year 1: spend £1,500 to cover the missed annuity income, no state pension missed, now have £46500 left.
    Year 2: add around 3% interest/gains now have £47695. Spend £9500 to cover annuity and state pension, 1 year of deferral done. Have £38395 left. State pension gain £464.
    Year 3: add 3% have £39546. Spend the £9500 (ignoring inflation increases!). Have £30046.85 left. SP gain £928.
    Year 4: add 3% have £30958.25. Spend £9500. Have £21448.25, SP gain £1392.
    Year 5: add 3% have £22091.70. Spend £9500, have £12591.70, SP gain £1856.
    Year 6: add 3% have £12969.45. Spend £9500, have £3469.45, SP gain £2320.
    Year 7: add 3% have £3573.53. That's 3573.53/9500 * 100 = 37.6% of the required spend, deferring with that gains 37.6% of 5.8% of £8000 = £174.46 for total deferral increase of £2484.46.

    So instead of £1500 inflation-linked you'd have £2284.46. The annuity is probably RPI linked while deferral is probably CPI liked, so about 1% lower. In addition you'd have the usual inflation increases in the state pension while it was being deferred and the inflation-linked annuity payments to adjust with, so the actual calculation each year would be a bit different, spending more in cash terms and leaving a bit less for deferral.
  • digannio
    digannio Posts: 344 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Thanks for that jamesd. It all adds to my research and options.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 247K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.3K Life & Family
  • 261.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.