Advice needed, re: Sunday working

bluenoseam

tomcarlin wrote: »

Sorry, but why should I not enforce my rights if I don't wish to work Sundays? The other three could do exactly the same if they wanted to.

Because the subtle hint is it will make you unpopular to the point of it having potential to have an adverse effect on overall morale & thus make YOU a target for micromanagement. What people have been subtly trying to say to you is it will make you a jerk & for something so minor they're trying to get you to evaluate if it's really worth it. Sometimes it's about seeing the bigger picture & ultimately if one guy is unpopular it's a no brainer as to who's going to be singled out with all the negative opinions.

It's your call in the end, but I'd be thinking about the overall effect of you wanting 1 Sunday in 4 off.

agrinnall

What type of shop has finished it's business by 11 a.m. on a Sunday? Sounds odd to me, and I suspect there's more too it than we're being told.

And it raises the question: does the shop need to open at all on a Sunday?

tom222

agrinnall wrote: »

What type of shop has finished it's business by 11 a.m. on a Sunday? Sounds odd to me, and I suspect there's more too it than we're being told.

And it raises the question: does the shop need to open at all on a Sunday?

Like I said, I work in a supermarket as a baker. All we do on a Sunday is produce and bake a small amount of products due to the store not being open for long. We start at 4:30am so normally finished by 11am. Nothing more to it than that.

Another_not_new_user

Of course, if the employer wanted to get really awkward about this, the definition of a shop worker does not fit with that of a baker - they could argue that the OP is not a shop worker but a food preparation operative since they work in the bakery and not in the shop or on the shop floor. That would leave the OP having to make a claim to get a determination. I doubt they will go that far though. If they are really bothered by this they will simply find a way of managing the OP out of work. I suspect they may find that they employ too many bakers.

pmlindyloo

Here is what CAB's website says:

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/work_e/work_rights_at_work_e/basic_rights_at_work.htm

bap98189

tomcarlin wrote: »

Can anybody please shed some light on where I stand in terms of opting out? Can I simply tell them I don't want to work on a Sunday anymore or do I still have to give the required three months notice?

Yes you can inform them that you no longer want to work on a Sunday. Yes, you have to give 3 months notice. Just write a very simple letter stating that you wish to exercise your rights to opt out of Sunday working, and hand it in to the HR department.

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/work_e/work_rights_at_work_e/basic_rights_at_work.htm#h_sunday_working

If you started working for your employer after 26 August 1994 (6 April 2004 in Scotland; 4 December 1997 in Northern Ireland), you may be required to work on Sundays. However, unless you are employed to only work on Sundays, you may opt out of Sunday working. You have to give your employer three months' notice of your objection to working on Sundays. This notice must be in writing, and you must date and sign it. During the three-month notice period your employer may require you to work on Sundays. After that, if you give notice in the correct way and you work the three-month notice period, you have the right not to be dismissed or be treated unfairly for refusing to work on Sundays. If you are dismissed, it will count as an automatically unfair dismissal.

tom222

bap98189 wrote: »

Yes you can inform them that you no longer want to work on a Sunday. Yes, you have to give 3 months notice. Just write a very simple letter stating that you wish to exercise your rights to opt out of Sunday working, and hand it in to the HR department.

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/work_e/work_rights_at_work_e/basic_rights_at_work.htm#h_sunday_working

If you started working for your employer after 26 August 1994 (6 April 2004 in Scotland; 4 December 1997 in Northern Ireland), you may be required to work on Sundays. However, unless you are employed to only work on Sundays, you may opt out of Sunday working. You have to give your employer three months' notice of your objection to working on Sundays. This notice must be in writing, and you must date and sign it. During the three-month notice period your employer may require you to work on Sundays. After that, if you give notice in the correct way and you work the three-month notice period, you have the right not to be dismissed or be treated unfairly for refusing to work on Sundays. If you are dismissed, it will count as an automatically unfair dismissal.

Yes, thank you. I was mainly just unclear where I stood as I'm not technically contracted to work on Sundays. Done and handed in now! :beer:

agrinnall

tomcarlin wrote: »

Like I said, I work in a supermarket as a baker. All we do on a Sunday is produce and bake a small amount of products due to the store not being open for long. We start at 4:30am so normally finished by 11am. Nothing more to it than that.

Thanks, obvious really, serves me right for skim reading!

BoJangles_2

And maybe the new staff employed to work on Sundays are slowly given more and more shifts, taking shifts from those who opted out of working Sundays...!

custardy

I don't really understand the legislation at all. What is so unique about shop workers & Sundays?