Hive or manufacture's control

r2015

I am going to be getting a Worcester Bosch combi and deciding on which control to get.


Installer recommends a
http://www.directheatingsupplies.co.uk/worcester-greenstar-comfort-ii-rf-wireless-programmer?gclid=CMbdl5vv4cMCFezJtAod53AALw


Page just for illustration, I've know idea where he will get it from and he hasn't given a cost breakdown, just boiler and wireless controller.


Considering I can get a Hive for £199, should I get a Hive?

I_have_spoken

If you have just a combi, no hot water tank, then with the Comfort II RF Wireless Programmer you'll be paying for unneeded functionality to set H/W times.

If you just want a smart room-stat then IMHO the Nest is getting more support than Hive.

r2015

If you have just a combi, no hot water tank, then with the Comfort II RF Wireless Programmer you'll be paying for unneeded functionality to set H/W times.

All WB programmer thermostats allow you to set hot water times for pre-heating.

They don't supply them without the hot water function.

Jonesya

That controller you linked to looks expensive and I don't understand why you would want a full controller (that controls the hot water) with a combi boiler. At that price I probably would go for one of the WiFi/web enabled thermostats or controllers.

You can get perfectly functional wired, programmable thermostats for £30, wireless ones for £50+.

I guess it depends on what functionality you want.

r2015

That controller you linked to looks expensive and

That is what the heating engineer recommended, I'm not buying it, as I said, for illustration purposes only.

You can get perfectly functional wired, programmable thermostats for £30, wireless ones for £50+.

Yes I know but if fitting a new Worcester boiler the heating engineer fits Worcester controls, makes it easier for them I suppose.

r2015

If you just want a smart room-stat then IMHO the Nest is getting more support than Hive.

But the hive does what I want without having to turn it up and down all the time.

Imagine 2 OAPs, one who feels cold all the time and one who feels too warm all the time, the control would be worn out in a week.

I am only considering the hive against the Worcester control because it is cheaper but more complicated for my wife to work and I can turn the heating down from my computer without my wife noticing, hopefully.:rotfl:

I_have_spoken

Ah, the usual approach is to fit a an old-skool rotary thermostat on the wall, not connected to anything, and tell the wee wifey that's the temp control.

The real one is hidden away...:)

FarsleyGuy

I would recommend a Nest, cost about the same as a hive, really pleased with mine, it will work with any new combi

anotheruser

I don't really understand Hive/Nest...

I set my thermostat to the temperature I want, program the timer and leave it alone. If it's too hot/cold, I have a button I can push, which jumps it to the next timing function (IE, on/off).

Seronera

anotheruser wrote: »

I don't really understand Hive/Nest...

I set my thermostat to the temperature I want, program the timer and leave it alone. If it's too hot/cold, I have a button I can push, which jumps it to the next timing function (IE, on/off).

Nothing wrong with doing that whatsoever, but the next stage is to have a programmable stat that turns it on at one temp for when you get up, then turns itself down e.g.when you leave for work or go shopping, then turns itself up again when the temp starts to fall in the late afternoon, then goes down to a default low temp of your choice overnight or switches off.

Now I like programmable stats, but they do take some setting up and that causes a lot of people problems. Some are OK to set up, some are just awful (impossible) but none are that easy.

I have to admit I havn't fitted any Nest or played with the BG Hive so I'm not up to scratch on them. I believe they do their job well, but at £200 its a long time before you save any money...if ever. They are of course controllable externally, but I suspect that except for a few travelling types that facility is not going to get a lot of use

For all practical purposes the Center Brand RF Programmable Stat at £39 plus VAT, and made for PlumbCenter by Honeywell is the bargain of them all which will do just about all of what you need and you will make genuine savings in a much shorter time at that price. I've no connection with Plumb Center......except I usually owe them some money..:(

jhs14

To my mind hive/nest/tado are unnecessarily overengineered for what is still a rather clumsy way of controlling central heating - ie, one thermostat for the whole house. Surely the future is in individual radiator controls - ie, each TRV being a remote controlled room stat, so your heating system heats bedrooms in evening/morning, living room in evening, home office in daytime, etc etc. I'm sure that as the cost of those goes down, hive/nest etc will quickly become old fashioned, or at best an add on to a fully zoned system.