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Obtaining someone's address from the electoral register

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  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    Ooh, who is he? :D
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • Valli
    Valli Posts: 25,475 Forumite
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    Mimosa wrote: »
    Saker75, I would rather have appreciated him giving me an answer to my question at the time of asking (not a pressing, important or urgent question). He has not mentioned it again, and, in all honesty, I was just asking to make conversation. He did not need to go away and obtain an answer for me. However, engaging in conversation with a customer should not lead to said customer knocking at your door - on a Sunday, too!
    The question was something along the lines of "why is the housing development going ahead when even the council are against it?" It was just chatter, really.

    But it wasn't, really. 'Just chatter' is something you could have said to ANY customer. This was a specific statement pertinent to the customer's interest.
    Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY
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    Thank you Honey Bear
  • jackyann
    jackyann Posts: 3,433 Forumite
    Mojisola wrote: »
    I would send a letter to him from you and your OH, signed by both of you, with a copy sent to the Tory leader at the council stating that you don't want to help with the campaign and asking him not to come to your house again.

    If he is a known "pest" they will be looking for any evidence they can to drop him, and will be glad to hear from you. Mojisola's suggestion is a nice neutral one - not a "complaint" (that they might want to waste your time "following up") but a very clear statement.
    Hope that sorts it out.
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    edited 11 February 2015 at 6:41PM
    TheEffect wrote: »
    I doubt they got your address from the electoral role. I work for one of the London Councils, and we do not need to look at the electoral role. We have an internal system that allows us to search for, and see details about, every resident, and every house in the borough.

    Why is that any easier than looking at the electoral roll? He's a politician on party business - what better use is there for the electoral roll? :D I'd say it's the other way round - he doesn't need an internal database because he just looks at the electoral roll.

    As an aside, I should imagine that's where your internal system has come from in the first place. The council's taken its data from the electoral roll. Or did you think someone's keyed all that data in? ;)
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • Mimosa
    Mimosa Posts: 33 Forumite
    Valli, you are right in all you say. I am very chatty and happy normally and have some truly lovely customers who are regulars. However, this man is just so ... odd. I have no other way to describe him. He has been pulled up for inappropriate behaviour several times, had lied about it when confronted and then very ungraciously apologised and has received the appropriate training courses. I don't read the local paper so was unaware of much of this until doing an online research.


    When he is at the checkout he has done the following:
    a) not emptied his basket, but takes out one item at a time for you to scan it. Once that is done he hands you the next item - and so on, for a whole basket! He did this for about a year.
    b) launched into a spiel about your voting intentions. Such a brazen attitude leaves me squirming. Then he just looks at you waiting for an answer, whilst I stutter away. Yes, I'm silly.
    c) stared at you whilst you are trying to scan and pack. You've asked him if he wants help with packing and he's said he could do it. He doesn't. He just stared and was silent. Hence, me jabbering away about the development. I was uncomfortable.
    d) asked me what I was doing here (yes he did ask that). I told him bewildered, "I work here", then asked where have I been as he hasn't seen me for ages. Yes, you saw me two weeks ago.


    None of the above is illegal or doing anything wrong, but it makes us (some of my colleagues and I) uncomfortable. I could write to the leader of the council, but I know it would get me nowhere, and I don't fancy my name and picture all over the local rag. He is very high up - although not leader.
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    TheEffect wrote: »
    The internal council database would show a lot more information, plus the resident might not be on the electoral roll. I doubt it would be in the politician's best interests to get someone to help them who's currently being investigated for benefit fraud... :p

    True I guess.
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • Valli
    Valli Posts: 25,475 Forumite
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    edited 11 February 2015 at 6:48PM
    As an aside then, if his behaviour is making you and your colleagues feel uncomfortable I suggest you keep a written record of his behaviours with the names of the staff members who notice them and ask your manager(s) to ask him to behave in a more appropriate manner or shop elsewhere.

    As a minimum try not to engage in conversation. I would actually go as far as to ignore 'irrelevant' questions (i.e. feign deafness) so that your conversation is limited to the basic functional phrases - 'Good morning' 'Would you like help with packing?' That will be £xx.xx, please' and 'Thank you'.
    Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY
    "I would like more sisters, that the taking out of one, might not leave such stillness" Emily Dickinson
    :heart:Janice 1964-2016:heart:

    Thank you Honey Bear
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    Tell us what council this is or you're lying, OP :D
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    He makes you and several other members of staff uncomfortable and even the security guard has noticed his behaviour is strange.

    Can't the management keep an eye out for him in store and get someone to help him pack his shopping so that he is out of the shop more quickly and there are two of you to divert his attention (also witnesses for each other if he gets any creepier).
  • Mimosa
    Mimosa Posts: 33 Forumite
    Oh, fluffnutter, I would love to tell you. Really I would.


    Jackyann and Mojisola. I can't see how a letter from me would help the council get rid of him. The complaints against him have appeared in the paper, he's been reprimanded and trained and he is still a councillor. After inappropriate behaviour and inappropriate comments (sad, bad and backward!), he kept his council seat.
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