Wattson Anywhere or energyhive hub?

Simple question... Wattson Solar Plus on its way, so do I spend £50 on the Wattson Anywhere or £30 on the energyhive hub?
Both look the same to me, and energyhive does work with the Wattson transmitter.
Why the price difference? Both link to energyhive's website to show the statistical data too from what I can tell at Wattson's live demo page.
4kWp system (Feb 2014) : 1.5 SW, 2.5 NE (16x Bisol BMO/250, Aurora Power-One UNO PVI-3.6 Inverter : pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=29935

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  • theboylard
    theboylard Posts: 1,211 Forumite
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    Wattson adding their mark up!

    I found energyhive very helpful when I dealt with them last year.

    I'd got an old current cost monitor, and so bought an energyhive hub, but it couldn't deal with my diverter.
    Energyhive swapped it for just postage costs when I acquired my Wattson.

    But Wattson doesn't accurately measure diversion either, and reports erroneous readings! Bears no resemblance to my gen meter!!

    Unless I've not set it up properly?
    4kWp, SSE, SolarEdge P300 optimisers & SE3500 Inverter, in occasionally sunny Corby, Northants.
    Now with added Sunsynk 5kw hybrid ecco inverter & 15kWh Fogstar batteries. Oh Octopus Energy too.
  • Andy_WSM
    Andy_WSM Posts: 2,217 Forumite
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    Buy through the energyhive hub and in the buying process there is an option to tell them you have a wattson - you must do this. £30 and you get a wattson compatible hub & they email you the link to the wattson dashboard account setup page.

    This is exactly the way I went about it anyway.
  • legoman62
    legoman62 Posts: 4,892 Forumite
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    Andy_WSM wrote: »
    Buy through the energyhive hub and in the buying process there is an option to tell them you have a wattson - you must do this. £30 and you get a wattson compatible hub & they email you the link to the wattson dashboard account setup page.

    This is exactly the way I went about it anyway.

    I did this too...although at the time, I think the Wattson and energygyhive hubs

    were the the same price.(£29.99):)
    16 Sanyo Hit 250s.4kWp SMA 3.8kWp inverter. SW roof. 28° pitch. Minimal shade. Nov 2011 install. Hybrid car. Ripple Kirk Hill. N.E Lincs Coast.
  • groovyf
    groovyf Posts: 286 Forumite
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    Went for the Anywhere... and now it's an obsession!
    Seems I have an errant device sucking juice according to the import figure (approx. 500w), my background usage is roughly 200-220w or so.
    From around 12.30 am, import gradually rose to it's current level.
    Has anyone with a Wattson seen this before? Worth resetting the transmitter? It's being powered by batteries as no electric socket nearby)
    4kWp system (Feb 2014) : 1.5 SW, 2.5 NE (16x Bisol BMO/250, Aurora Power-One UNO PVI-3.6 Inverter : pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=29935
  • I've not seen this... sometimes I see small discrepancies of about 50W e.g. more power being diverted than is left after base load... but it's not clear because I don't know whether the figures you see are averages over the past few seconds or instantaneous readings.

    Could try shutting down RCDs until you find what's causing it?
  • groovyf
    groovyf Posts: 286 Forumite
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    Dodgy transmitter!
    Turned off all breakers and the main switch in consumer unit and Wattson was still reporting 318.
    Pulled out cable for clamp round the mains feed from the transmitter ... *still* thought I was generating!

    Took out batteries for a short while and back to normal. Will be logging a ticket with them
    4kWp system (Feb 2014) : 1.5 SW, 2.5 NE (16x Bisol BMO/250, Aurora Power-One UNO PVI-3.6 Inverter : pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=29935
  • Oscargrouch
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    groovyf wrote: »
    Went for the Anywhere... and now it's an obsession!
    Seems I have an errant device sucking juice according to the import figure (approx. 500w), my background usage is roughly 200-220w or so.
    From around 12.30 am, import gradually rose to it's current level.
    Has anyone with a Wattson seen this before? Worth resetting the transmitter? It's being powered by batteries as no electric socket nearby)

    I have my transmitter set for the most frequent transmission to the Wattson Monitor which I think is every 3 seconds. Battery power is not good, when I first had mine, batteries lasted 3-4 weeks on the tranmitter. Have now put an extension lead in to power it. Ref Diversion: If you use an Optimmersion for diverting, that contains a transmitter so will show what is being diverted. Be interested to find out where some of you guys have the transmitter connected as this, I think, is a key issue....coffee.gif

    Below is the difference between EnergyHives Display & Wattson.
    http://wattson.energyhive.com/dashboard/oscarsenergy

    http://www.energyhive.com/dashboard/oscarsenergy
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
  • groovyf
    groovyf Posts: 286 Forumite
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    I'd read about poor usage with batteries on the most frequent update setting, so have set that to the lowest (12 secs I think it is).
    All my gubbins (meter, henley box, etc) are outside in a wall box, so no leccy socket nearby (I know you can get extension cables for the clamps, but I'm not doing any wall drilling where there are that many electric cables... grid ones included!!)

    Quite odd, really, as I unplugged the solar generation cable from transmitter and Wattson displayed zero , which I expected.

    Was not expecting it to still report usage when I'd turned the breakers off and unplugged the clamp cable! :D
    4kWp system (Feb 2014) : 1.5 SW, 2.5 NE (16x Bisol BMO/250, Aurora Power-One UNO PVI-3.6 Inverter : pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=29935
  • Oscargrouch
    Oscargrouch Posts: 4,393 Forumite
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    edited 11 February 2015 at 2:53PM
    groovyf wrote: »
    I'd read about poor usage with batteries on the most frequent update setting, so have set that to the lowest (12 secs I think it is).

    12 seconds is fine for people without solar, but for us Anoraks with it I think you lose the detail we crave for. This is how mine is set up apart from all connections are in the consumer unit, fixed to the same Cables but in the unit itself. The CU is in the hall with sockets below it, I do use the 'easy fit' cables. And I also have an 'Optiplug' in use which works as described on the tin....http://www.diykyoto.com/uk/holmes/easifit-installation.....coffee.gif
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
  • Alibee2
    Alibee2 Posts: 1 Newbie
    edited 1 May 2015 at 11:27AM
    I too am thinking our wattson anywhere import is running too high by approx this amount when I compare our import figures from the wattson with our utility company electricity meter. What did they say when you logged a ticket...did you get any response?
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