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Nationwides "Affordiablity Cauclator" is seriosuly messed up

Nationwide "Affordability Calculator" is seriously messed up the 15 minute one not the quick one.

For example the only figure i change as a variable is the house insurance no other boxes.

House insurance £400
Loan allowed: £76,700

House insurance £300
Loan allowed: £78,000

Really i can have a extra £1300 for a difference of a £100, what is this madness?!!! :eek:
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  • DpchMd
    DpchMd Posts: 540 Forumite
    So where's the problem?

    Also isn't the house insurance field normally per month?
    "Beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship." - Benjamin Franklin
  • amnblog
    amnblog Posts: 12,769 Forumite
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    Still trying to sort it out yourself TC?
    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • topcat007
    topcat007 Posts: 246 Forumite
    DpchMd wrote: »
    So where's the problem?

    Also isn't the house insurance field normally per month?

    No this is annual.

    I was just shocked at how much a small difference could make such a big difference to the loan amount.
  • topcat007
    topcat007 Posts: 246 Forumite
    amnblog wrote: »
    Still trying to sort it out yourself TC?

    Afraid so , i am a bit stubborn

    i did look at brokers today but thought i would give it a last try :)
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,338 Forumite
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    If buildings insurance is costing £300 or £400 a year, I suggest you seek protection advice.

    We do not enter that kind of cost in the broker calculator.

    Same with council tax. We have a set amount we use and vary it only for a single person household.

    TC - what did you enter for travel? Did you know you should only enter travel cost over and above the average the system allows for, such as a season ticket?

    This is where broker experience counts for so much.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • DpchMd
    DpchMd Posts: 540 Forumite
    topcat007 wrote: »
    Afraid so , i am a bit stubborn

    i did look at brokers today but thought i would give it a last try :)

    You should use a broker.
    "Beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship." - Benjamin Franklin
  • topcat007
    topcat007 Posts: 246 Forumite
    kingstreet wrote: »
    If buildings insurance is costing £300 or £400 a year, I suggest you seek protection advice.

    We do not enter that kind of cost in the broker calculator.

    Same with council tax. We have a set amount we use and vary it only for a single person household.

    TC - what did you enter for travel? Did you know you should only enter travel cost over and above the average the system allows for, such as a season ticket?

    This is where broker experience counts for so much.

    Thanks for advice , very good of you!

    Where do i seek protection advice or what even is it ? I would be very interested to know.

    I took the council tax down by £300 and then could have a extra £4600 loan..

    Applogies but what does this part mean "cost over and above the average the system allows for"? Hypercritical example does it mean the average person spends £30 a week on travel so if i spent £40 i would put £10 in the box?
  • westv
    westv Posts: 6,510 Forumite
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    Are Nationwide on a special deal to boost broker clients? :D
  • Let_Us_See
    Let_Us_See Posts: 1,319 Forumite
    kingstreet wrote: »
    If buildings insurance is costing £300 or £400 a year, I suggest you seek protection advice.

    KS £300 - £400 for B & C would be considered a bargain in some parts of the UK.
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,338 Forumite
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    It doesn't include contents insurance, it's buildings only which is input.

    Advice on protection, TC? Someone who advises on protecting your home and your mortgage so you get a realistic idea of the costs involved.

    The bottom line here is you can fiddle around and complain about this or that making a difference, but what's important is what is realistic and what is going to be accepted by the lender.

    For example, you don't input "normal" travel costs. You only enter those over and above normal for your size of household, such as season tickets.

    No-one here is going to tell you what to enter and where, so a consultation with an independent broker would appear a prudent move.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
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