We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

which mortgage should I overpay?

I have two properties. One is a buy to let property with £135k left on the interest only mortgage at 5.3%. The second is the house I live in, it has £212k left on the mortgage, 3.6%. Both are 25 year mortgages.
I was planning on beginning to overpay the rental property as it has the higher interest rate, however I'm not sure if this is the best approach, should I begin to pay off the larger debt? The higher interst debt? Or split my overpayments across both?
«1

Comments

  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    I assume that the profit on the rental property is being declared. What impact would declaring higher profits have on your personal tax position?

    If you overpaid the residential mortgage could you remortgage using a better LTV, thereby securing a lower interest rate.
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Do you have enough equity in our own property to replace the BTL mortgage with a higher mortgage secured on your own home at a lower interest rate? The interest will still be deductible for the BTL financing portion,and for any borrowing to withdraw profits from the BTL up to the value of the BTL property at the time it entered your BTL business.

    The BTL interest rate is higher but it's deductible from rental income as an expense. That means that it is probably cheaper after tax then your residential mortgage.

    Another aspect is why you'd overpay on either when P2P is around that pays 10%+, better than the saving from either.
  • Thrugelmir wrote: »
    I assume that the profit on the rental property is being declared. What impact would declaring higher profits have on your personal tax position?

    If you overpaid the residential mortgage could you remortgage using a better LTV, thereby securing a lower interest rate.

    Thanks for your reply.
    Yes, earnings on it are declared, I'm a higher rate tax payer already so earnings on the rental property won't affect that.
    And both mortgages have only been fairly recently taken out, so not in a position to remortgage at the moment.
  • jamesd wrote: »
    Do you have enough equity in our own property to replace the BTL mortgage with a higher mortgage secured on your own home at a lower interest rate? The interest will still be deductible for the BTL financing portion,and for any borrowing to withdraw profits from the BTL up to the value of the BTL property at the time it entered your BTL business.

    The BTL interest rate is higher but it's deductible from rental income as an expense. That means that it is probably cheaper after tax then your residential mortgage.

    Another aspect is why you'd overpay on either when P2P is around that pays 10%+, better than the saving from either.


    Thanks for the reply.

    Only recently bought the house I live in. Approx 15% equity, so dont think Im in a position to do as you suggest.
    P2P is an interesting suggestion. To be honest its not something I have really considered or know much about. I'll do some research!
  • Assuming your BTL makes profits and that no other mortgage options are available, then paying off your residential mortgage first results in a greater post tax cash saving for you. Incidentally, I personally would not go the p2p route as I would consider it too risky.
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Agreed about not viable to adjust the mortgages. Agre with TrickyDicky101 that the residential one is what gains you most for overpaying after allowing for tax effects. Net interest on the BTL mortgage is 3.18%.

    For P2P you might look at Ablrate. Relatively new, loans secured on physical plant or aircraft.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    popey89 wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply.
    Yes, earnings on it are declared, I'm a higher rate tax payer already so earnings on the rental property won't affect that.
    And both mortgages have only been fairly recently taken out, so not in a position to remortgage at the moment.

    By overpaying the BTL mortgage you'll increase the taxable profit. Overpaying the residential mortgage is your better option. With the added benefit that LTV will improve over time.
  • JethroUK
    JethroUK Posts: 1,959 Forumite
    jamesd wrote: »

    Another aspect is why you'd overpay on either when P2P is around that pays 10%+, better than the saving from either.

    What's P2P because I want one if it pays 10%
    When will the "Edit" and "Quote" button get fixed on the mobile web interface?
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    P2P is peer to peer lending. MSE has an article on it though that only mentions the older players. As with all investment there's some risk to capital that has to be considered when making decisions about it. For a person already involved in the high risk BTL game it's at least within their investment risk tolerance. Maybe not so for those who prefer savings accounts and don't like investing.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    JethroUK wrote: »
    What's P2P because I want one if it pays 10%

    How much of your money are you prepared to lose?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.3K Life & Family
  • 258.3K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.