We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Buy to Let question.

Hi,

We had to move home due to our child's school and have rented out our home and we are currently renting.

Our mortgage is currently with Nationwide (3.99 SVR) who have given us consent to let for a year but with a clause that they will increase the interest rate by 1.5% after the initial 6 months.

We want to retain the house, outstanding mortgage is £110K and the house is probably worth 220K. Would it be a good idea to go for buy to let with some other provider (have HSBC in mind as we bank with them)?

I have in the past preferred to go for fixed mortgages 2-3 years as I know exactly what is the outgoing that I need to budget and plan for.

Thanks
«1

Comments

  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    HSBC criteria,
    Borrower Eligibility

    Our Buy to let mortgages are available to:
    HSBC Premier customers, or
    HSBC current account customers providing you meet all of the points below:
    you hold a HSBC current account, into which your salary has been paid, for at least 3 months; and
    if you are a sole applicant, you have an annual salary of at least £50,000 and if you are joint applicants, you have a combined annual salary of at least £75,000 or one party has an individual salary of £50,000 or more.
    Affordability
    The affordability of a Buy to let mortgage can be assessed from either rental income and/or salaried income.

    Rental income
    If you intend to pay your Buy to Let mortgage payments from the property's rental income, the rent must be at least 130% of the mortgage payments. For example, if the monthly payment is £100 (100%), the monthly rental income must be at least £130 (130%). To assess how much you can afford to borrow, a Rental Income affordability assessment is carried out. We will also undertake a broader review of your financial circumstances, which is in addition to the rental cover requirement.

    Salaried income
    If you intend to pay your Buy to Let mortgage payments from your salaried income, we will assess your mortgage application taking into consideration any associated bills for the Buy to let property in addition to your other monthly financial commitments, for example residential mortgage payments, utility bills etc.
  • amnblog
    amnblog Posts: 12,762 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Our local authority have a problem if you are renting in catchment but own out of catchment.
    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Long term plans and IF you want to buy another property come to mind!
    You have a lot of money tied up in your home at the moment.
    Why do you want to become a Long term landlord?
    Can you afford 2 mortgages ? Income, Age, savings etc all come into the equation
    You really need to speak to a Whole of market mortgage broker who deals in BTL mortgages and maybe an IFA to discuss your long term plans
  • Thrugelmir:
    Thanks for highlighting the criteria, makes me now think it is going to be harder to get a new mortgage!
    Our current job situation changed, I am now self employed and that in itself will pose issues in obtaining a mortgage I think.

    dimbo61:
    The reason I am holding on to the current house is that I am not sure if being self employed will I be able to obtain a new mortgage, so my initial thoughts were hold on to the existing property and when I know for sure I can get a mortgage for a slightly bigger house in a year or two when my accounts looks good then sell the current house and buy a new house by using the money as deposit for the new house.
    I am not looking to be a long term landlord, we want to buy a bigger house if we can, the problem of being self employed is low salary and most of the income is taken as dividends, I will have to approach a few banks to see what they can offer, I am just 8 months into self employment so thought it might be worth waiting a for another 6+ months before approaching a bank.
    In the meantime wanted to find out if I could bring down my monthly mortgage repayment by going for a BTL, but it looks like I might not have many options but to stay put with Nationwide!

    amnblog:
    I wasn't aware of this, my local council is aware of my current address which is out of catchment and so far have not raised any issues, so hoping that should not be a problem.
  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Many lenders now want to see 2/3 years of accounts so again one for a broker I am afraid.
  • amnblog
    amnblog Posts: 12,762 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    hoping that should not be a problem.


    I wouldn't go buying a property on that basis.
    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,796 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Academoney Grad Name Dropper
    amnblog wrote: »
    Our local authority have a problem if you are renting in catchment but own out of catchment.

    Mainly because of a suspicion that you are not really living in the catchment (or certainly not for longer than necessary to acquire a school place).

    Anecdotedly people rent a cheap as chips one bed flat as near as possible to school and continue to live in their 4 bed detached in another area.

    If you can prove that the move is genuine it should stand up to scrutiny.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • amnblog
    amnblog Posts: 12,762 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Not in my LA
    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • silvercar wrote: »
    Mainly because of a suspicion that you are not really living in the catchment (or certainly not for longer than necessary to acquire a school place).

    Anecdotedly people rent a cheap as chips one bed flat as near as possible to school and continue to live in their 4 bed detached in another area.

    If you can prove that the move is genuine it should stand up to scrutiny.

    Thanks for the pointer.

    The move is genuine as my DD was offered a place in a very good school, we accepted the place and had to move as commuting from where we lived to the school was not feasible. So I am sure we have a good case as we did not move before the place was offered so the case of moving to acquire a school place is ruled out.
  • Looks like in my current situation best option would be to hold on to the property as getting a new mortgage seems tricky for now, I am aware that this means I will have to consider the long term landlord option and the pros and cons of doing so, At the moment I have a good tenant so has been smooth so far.

    The reason I see in doing this is that we have a nice two bed property in a good locality, which is appreciating in value and I am unsure that I will be able to get back into the property ladder if I sell this.

    with the above thoughts in mind would be a good idea to overpay the mortgage whenever possible? The interest rate would be 3.99+1.5 (Nationwide will add this 1.5 as I have taken a consent to let last September)?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.3K Life & Family
  • 258.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.