Can my manager stop me taking an internal promotion?

Takeaway_Addict

Loopy28 wrote: »

haha thank you!

The other department are fighting for me now, it has all kicked off today and they are accusing my manager of stopping my career progression. The company director even got involved and said they really need me in the new job.

I do still feel a loyalty to my current manager and dpt. though, even though I know she is being selfish and thinking of herself before me, I do feel that she has done a lot for me and I would be throwing it back in her face.

No!

Sorry, its a mutual contract that benefited you both, she may have given you the leg up but if it wasn't you it would have been someone else and you worked hard to be in the position you are now.

patman99

Forget any loyalty you have for your current manager and go for the job.
The fact that if you are successful, it will leave a big mess behind, is not your problem. It's hers.

Think about it this way, what if you were to retire tomorrow ?. How would the department cope with your not being there ?. They would have to employ and train a suitable replacement. It happens in business all the time.

Loopy28

Thank you for your really helpful comments, I have really been thinking hard and realised that if I don't apply I will regret it and that I need to think about myself.

I will be going against my promise not to apply, which is a bit harsh and she may not speak to me again! But when I was talking to her today saying I really want to do it, but that I don't want to leave the department at this difficult time, she didn't even try to tell me not to worry, she was just pleased I wasn't applying. I had to take a step back and look at it from another angle and if I was her I'd be encouraging an employee to progress, not hold them back as I know someone else could come on board and be trained up. I've realised she is being selfish.

So I'm going to apply but don't know how on earth to tell her, think I'll apply and then tell her or she'll end up convincing me not to again...

getmore4less

When you move on and become her boss see how much loyalty she gives you.

Don't apply just ask the new boss when does he want you to start and can they help with the transition planning.

Get involved(and get seen more by the director) in making this happen and show you are management material making sure that the interests of the business are your priority.

SandC

That is what it's all about, your Manager is behaving appallingly and you really don't owe her anything. You have paid her back for her help in moving you forward by doing a great job, being reliable and trustworthy. That is all the gratitude that is required in the world of business.

You will kick yourself if you don't take this chance and remember she's only one person in your organisation.... what if she decides to move on outside the company or take a promotion herself? What do you think she would do?

Go for it!

duchy

Why do you think she "May not speak to me again" ?

She's a manager not a teenager in the playground-If she's that unprofessional (and frankly her conduct has been unprofessional throughout) then you are better off away from her.

The department survived before you worked there- and will survive with you gone -None of us are genuinely not replaceable in a job. Yes her life may be easier not having to train up a replacement - but if she's lazy or unmotivated that isn't your problem.

She sounds dreadful and very manipulative.
Sounds like now the company's HR team are involved sense will prevail though.

Scorpio33

You need to do what is right for you.


If you go for this other job and get it - it would be as you put it, your dream job. Sounds like the other department want you to, so you should at least apply.


Yes, you would be leaving your current manager in a mess - but is that your issue? That is that managers job - to manage what is happening. Don't feel guilty as if it was the other way round and you were not needed, they would not worry about redundancy or how that would affect you.




Do what is best for YOU - no one else.

Yorkie1

Loopy28 wrote: »

So I'm going to apply but don't know how on earth to tell her, think I'll apply and then tell her or she'll end up convincing me not to again...

I think you can 'spin' it by explaining about the conversations the Director has had with you - that is a game changer in terms of things, if you want to represent it that way

Loopy28

Thank you, after a lengthy telephone call with the manager who is recruiting for the post yesterday, I made the decision to apply. He said that if I didn't apply I will always wonder if I would have got it and that this particular role might not come up again any time in the near future. The pay will be substantially more and the career development is huge. There are really only two ways I can go in my company now, I am currently in a senior role so it is either management or the training department and management has never interested me.

I haven't told my manager yet as I was out of the office yesterday, and am dreading it to be honest. I think I feel more guilty because I said I wouldn't apply and should have just been strong from the start.

The more I think about it, the more angry I am. I have always had a good relationship with my manager but I have realised she has a massive over reliance on me. Not just in the job role but for emotional support as well. I spend many hours during the day listening to her telling me about all the issues she is having with certain staff/other dpts and she offloads these problems onto me. I remember being snowed in one day so they let me work from home, she phoned me 3 times over the day for 1 hour each time to offload. Only now when I reflect, do I realise how unhealthy this is.

This role in some ways would be a good move away from the intensity and I have made the mistake of being loyal above my own interests.

I will let you know how things pan out...

getmore4less

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