CSA and Child Benefit won't listen!

Alpine

shoe*diva79 wrote: »

Your first child isn't your family for 3 years, he is your family FOREVER. I did have a little sympathy for you until those ridiculous statements.

He's not a child. He's a 19 year old adult no longer in full time education.

At some point everyone has to step out into the world and start looking after themselves. If his mother wants to charge him rent and living costs, that's fine, but his father should not be the first port of call for servicing those costs. The son should be getting a job.

13Kent

MoneyExpertFan wrote: »

13Kent, I guess you are referring to the Connexions extension? My son is too old for this, and if he had stuck it out until May/June when the course had ended then we would have had none of this.

I am owed over £1500 in overpaid CSA and I pay privately into my son's bank account as he is still job hunting.

Yes it was because they had signed up to connexions. Good for you for still supporting your son directly with what you can afford even though you are no longer paying CSA rather than paying the PWC any more money.

I agree that if you give him too much money he will have no incentive to go out and get a job, the 'child' in our case (should a 19 year old still be considered to be a child??) was discouraged from getting a job as the PWC would lose her CSA money if the child worked in their own right, and it seems your PWC claimed money that she wasn't entitled to in the same way that ours did. We tried to offer to support the child directly if the CSA case had closed and the child was job hunting, but the influence from the PWC was too great, she wanted the money to be paid to her - even though we knew the child had actually moved out of the PWC's household. I'm afraid that I feel that if our PWC had been left with a 19 year old in the house that had no incentive to get a job and she had to support then that would be something she had engineered herself through her greediness and dishonesty, and sadly by not thinking about what was best for her child, but just thinking about her pocket.

gazza1uk

i have a similar problem

My daughter went to college last September and only attended a couple of lessons and for the past 11 months she has done nothing

i contacted the CSA and they said i had to report it as a fraud case with the HMRC which i did ( but now looking at others experience it seems a waste of time) as the Csa would still take payments from me as the PWC was still claiming CB

i never heard anything from the HMRC so i called them back after about 7 weeks and they said i would just have to wait till they had chance to investigate

i called Csa again and they said they would call the PWC to see if the circumstances had changed to which the PWC said there were no changes (yea right!)

what annoys me is i have a letter from Children Services stating that my daughter is not at college and that she only attended 2 periods and decided that college was not for her and would not continue with any further education what so ever

and guess what CSA are not intrested neither are HMRC that i have this proof to hand so it now looks like i have to pay until she is 20 or until the PWC decides to stop the claim(haha yea right!!)

WYSPECIAL

Sounds similar to my situation in some ways.

I was told in December 2014 that my liability ended at the beginning of September 2014 but have yet to get back the money I paid in between times.

I'm half inclined to write it off as it is much less than many of you are owed and it would be nice to just put 15 years of CSA behind me. But then again if I owed this money to the PWC she would hound me until every penny was paid and then still want more!

13Kent

Gazza1uk I suggest you get back to the CSA and request a child benefit check, because if the PWC is no longer getting CB then CSA is no longer payable. If they find that CB has ended (as eventually happened in our case) then your case will be closed, and in our case we got some overpayments refunded from when the CB ceased to be paid.

Our PWC constantly lied about her circumstances to the CSA and they took her word for it without considering any other evidence. The only way we found out that our liability had ended was by repeatedly and regularly asking for a Child Benefit check as we suspected that the PWC was no longer entitled to CB and eventually it flagged up that CB was no longer being paid. We were still paying CSA even though the PWC was no longer getting CB because CB do not inform the CSA that they are no longer paying CB to the PWC. The only way to find this out is to request a CB check.

So each month keep getting back to the CSA and request a Child Benefit check. If the child starts work or it is flagged that the child has finished in education hopefully Child Benefit will be informed and stop payments.