Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Not really. There is no Scottish Exchequer.

https://www.revenue.scot/

So no independent tax powers ?

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

but I think folks are probably far more interested in other things just now.

I guess you missed my point entirely as wasn't oil prices that are the issue but the impact of. That's the trouble with having a short attention span. The real world doesn't move at a flick of the switch as the media nor politicians suggest. Everything takes time to filter through the system.

When Honda shut a production line in Swindon. 1,200 jobs went directly. What didn't hit the news was that 450 also lost their jobs in component suppliers. The effect rippled on ........

CLAPTON

Thrugelmir wrote: »

I guess you missed my point entirely as wasn't oil prices that are the issue but the impact of. That's the trouble with having a short attention span. The real world doesn't move at a flick of the switch as the media nor politicians suggest. Everything takes time to filter through the system.

When Honda shut a production line in Swindon. 1,200 jobs went directly. What didn't hit the news was that 450 also lost their jobs in component suppliers. The effect rippled on ........

ridiculous : you read the wrong newspapers

Thrugelmir

CLAPTON wrote: »

ridiculous : you read the wrong newspapers

Perhaps you ought to get out and experience the real world at some point in your working career. Rather than sitting in a cosy office reading newspapers.

zagubov

Thrugelmir wrote: »

I guess you missed my point entirely as wasn't oil prices that are the issue but the impact of. That's the trouble with having a short attention span. The real world doesn't move at a flick of the switch as the media nor politicians suggest. Everything takes time to filter through the system.

When Honda shut a production line in Swindon. 1,200 jobs went directly. What didn't hit the news was that 450 also lost their jobs in component suppliers. The effect rippled on ........

It used to be a campaign poster against Thatcherism
If you sack a teacher
- he can't buy a Metro so you sack a British Leyland worker
- so he doesn't need steel, so you sack a steelworker
- so he doesn't need coal, so you lay off a miner
- so he doesn't go to Brighton for his holiday and a landlady goes out of business.

Shakethedisease

Thrugelmir wrote: »

https://www.revenue.scot/

So no independent tax powers ?

Not for oil no. It all goes to the UK treasury. Why would you think otherwise ?

Generali

zagubov wrote: »

It used to be a campaign poster against Thatcherism
If you sack a teacher
- he can't buy a Metro so you sack a British Leyland worker
- so he doesn't need steel, so you sack a steelworker
- so he doesn't need coal, so you lay off a miner
- so he doesn't go to Brighton for his holiday and a landlady goes out of business.

Of course if said teacher was buying cars from BL (s)he would rarely be able to get to work due to having such an unreliable car. My friend's Mum had a BL Metro and the steering wheel came off in her hand on the A3.:eek:

That brings back memories.



Interestingly, the people in the queue are 20 Tory party members photographed over and over again. Ironically, unemployment was a million when the ad was produced and 3 million by the time the next election was called. Luckily for the Conservatives, Labour had produced their most idiotic manifesto ever and nobody voted for them.

ruggedtoast

Generali wrote: »

Of course if said teacher was buying cars from BL (s)he would rarely be able to get to work due to having such an unreliable car. My friend's Mum had a BL Metro and the steering wheel came off in her hand on the A3.:eek:

That brings back memories.



Interestingly, the people in the queue are 20 Tory party members photographed over and over again. Ironically, unemployment was a million when the ad was produced and 3 million by the time the next election was called. Luckily for the Conservatives, Labour had produced their most idiotic manifesto ever and nobody voted for them.

Was that the election where the Tories came up with the slogan "Britain is Booming" and everyone mentally added "Booming awful" as a suffix?

Generali

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Was that the election where the Tories came up with the slogan "Britain is Booming" and everyone mentally added "Booming awful" as a suffix?

Nope. This was May 79 when Thatcher first got in, the first election I remember. The number of unemployed had just gone over 1,000,000 which was a massive thing, especially when combined with the terrible strikes that saw the dead lying unburied and power cuts being a regular experience.

To go on strike the unions needed one vote in favour: "One out, all out" was the rallying cry. If you didn't strike you lost your union membership. If you weren't in the union you lost your job.

Britain's booming might have been '74???

ruggedtoast

Ah. Britain is Booming was '97. The year T. Blair got in. What a victory for democracy. We would actually have been better off with Major for another term.

I was a student at the time and people were so excited. It was like our Obama moment. With all the same disappointment a few years later.