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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies
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Shakethedisease wrote: »They're both time limited rules in force until 2016 I believe. Not for 'all time'. At a time where third hand hearsay in memo's are headline news for 48 hours. Hardly surprising. Inner divisions can wait until the election and anything that happens immediately afterwards are over. At the moment the SNP have far too much to risk re loose cannons/loose lips. And have had a very difficult time from the press over the last 2/3 years especially.
Wouldn't want any more wee memo's or email's leaked now would we.
just for a moment I thought you were writing tongue in cheek0 -
Amazing and depressing. So Nicola is the top paid politician and yet basics like this remain unresolved. Demand your money back people!!
Yep, it's pretty shocking actually.
The SNP controlled Scottish govt voted to make the Scottish FM role the highest paid ministerial post in the UK with a salary of £144,687.
Higher even than the UK Prime Minister.
An astonishing act of self-aggrandisement and greed.
Sturgeon is not (currently) taking the pay rise, instead ONLY pocketing a mere £135,605 (plus expenses, of course, can't forget about the expenses...).
And her husband Peter Morrell is (natch) the Chief Exec of the SNP, who in 2011 got £109,000 for that role...
Interestingly, his salary appears to be "missing" from last years accounts. So heaven only knows what financial rewards the Sturgeon household has amassed during the gigantic waste of taxpayer money that was the referendum campaign....
We do however know it was enough to buy a coffee maker with a price which is more than the monthly take home salary of a hospital porter..
Champagne socialists are so yesterday donchaknow, here in Scotland our 'socialist' politicians celebrate taxpayer largesse over a frothy cup of cappuccino....“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
From the screen grab on Buzzfeed it seems to apply to all members.
Yep.
No criticism of the party is allowed.
No criticism of the leader is allowed.
No criticism of the state is allowed.
Because of course it's not like those sorts of rules were the precursor to every abuse of power in history or anything.
Truly bizarre stuff.... :eek:“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
So much for brave new world of politics heralded by the SNP.HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »...
Sturgeon is not (currently) taking the pay rise, instead ONLY pocketing a mere £135,605 (plus expenses, of course, can't forget about the expenses...).
And her husband Peter Morrell is (natch) the Chief Exec of the SNP, who in 2011 got £109,000 for that role...
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They have their snouts in the trough, like many a politician who has gone before.
This is no new political era; it is same old same old.0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »No criticism of the party is allowed.
No criticism of the leader is allowed.
No criticism of the state is allowed.
Because of course it's not like those sorts of rules were the precursor to every abuse of power in history or anything.
Truly bizarre stuff.... :eek:
Getting rid of the HoL is part of the same thing of course. Nothing to come in the way of untrammelled power.
It's quite depressing that this is happening so soon.0 -
So much for brave new world of politics heralded by the SNP.
They have their snouts in the trough, like many a politician who has gone before.
This is no new political era; it is same old same old.
Indeed.
The Scottish Nepotist Party does, of course, have a long and proud history of troughing with the best of them....
But having it's leader and her hubby on well over £200,000 per year household income taken from the Scottish taxpayer and SNP funds does rather put things in perspective.
That's just one household of SNP politicians trousering over £1,000,000 in the next parliament alone.
It's absolutely amazing just how easy it is to fool the masses.
So long as they remove their snout from the trough long enough to squeal "fairness and equality" or "Westminster's fault" once in while, the Scottish public not only let them get away with it, but actively cheer them on.
Just.... Remarkable.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Indeed.
The Scottish Nepotist Party does, of course, have a long and proud history of troughing with the best of them....
But having it's leader and her hubby on well over £200,000 per year household income taken from the Scottish taxpayer and SNP funds does rather put things in perspective.
That's just one household of SNP politicians trousering over £1,000,000 in the next parliament alone. It's absolutely amazing just how easy it is to fool the masses.
Hamish, you know that bit in Men in Black, where the little flashy thing wipes memories ? Because you seem to have forgotten that Labour was in power in Holyrood for a time.. setting salaries and increases.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/dec/09/scottish-parliament-rejects-westminster-pay-risesTo the discomfort of MPs who plan to accept the IPSA recommendation, the new Holyrood deal was agreed by leaders of all four parties with MPs at Westminster – the Tories, Labour, the Liberal Democrats and the Scottish National party – as well as the two MSPs with the Scottish Green party.
The move, which will come into force in 2015, follows an agreement earlier this year by the Holyrood parties to limit their 2014 pay increase to 1%, including ministerial pay. Until now, the practice has been for MSPs' pay to sit at 85% of the pay for MPs at Westminster. The IPSA proposals would see MPs' pay rise to £74,000. With MSPs currently earning £58,097, under their new deal they will be refusing a pay rise of some £6,390 in 2015.
MSP's didn't take a pay rise above % of any other public sector workers. Nicola Sturgeon hasn't taken her full salary either. Was this a story in the Telegraph by any chance ?
You really should stop believing such discredited rubbish. Fool the masses right enough, because you seem to have been properly suckered in unfortunately. It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?0 -
Politicians' pay:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/31970289
Scotland's First Minister: entitled to £144,687, claims £135,605
Speaker of the House of Commons: £142,826
Prime Minister: £142,500 (the roundly despised Lady Thatcher claimed £0 IIRC)
Welsh First Minister: £134,723, £135,260 from next month
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Politicians' pay:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/31970289
Scotland's First Minister: entitled to £144,687, claims £135,605
Speaker of the House of Commons: £142,826
Prime Minister: £142,500 (the roundly despised Lady Thatcher claimed £0 IIRC)
Welsh First Minister: £134,723, £135,260 from next month
etc.
So she claims less that John Bercow. But is First Minister of Scotland ? You'll have to do a little better than that if you're talking troughing then won't you.
Still, is a distraction for you I suppose. Anything rather than face the reality of what might happen in a few weeks time to the Tories. Best hope those 'kippers' come home... Cameron certainly is.It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?0
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