Post that's not for me

anamenottaken

hollydays wrote: »

I own a house that I rented out then moved back into a few years later. I got debt collectors letters for them. I rang the companies concerned and told them I was the landlady and they didn't live here any more. Problem solved.

Was it really that simple?

If :
A has debts and lives at no 1
A calls a creditor and says they are B and A no longer lives at no 1

Will:
The company take the word of someone calling themselves B
and simply stop sending demands?

Or do you have to provide a bit more information than that?

gazebo

Hedgehog99 wrote: »

Mark a chalk mark on your wall near the door that looks like a two-headed arrow pointing to your two houses with an X in the middle of the horizontal line between the two arrow heads " ←X→". This is postie code for not leaving post with that neighbour.

As a postie, I've learned something new. Postie code? Um, ok then,maybe where you are from, but nope, never heard of this and have been in the job several years now

Heffi1

JReacher1 wrote: »

I think refusing to take the post from a neighbour who has signed on your addresses behalf is acting in a horrible manner.

The post is for that address and should be dealt with by the addressee not by a neighbour who thought they were doing you a favour.

You make the assumption that the neighbour is happy to provide the service of accepting post, I think it would be prudent to at least have the conversation with the neighbour and explain what is going on, and you never know a friendship could develop while exchanging details.

Or stay in your own fortress and do not venture out into the world, god forbid you would take any time at all to get to know the people who live nearby.

A quick ten minute chat with next door and all of this is cleared up, nobody needs to get upset, after all it is not their post.

I would probably chuck the post away if it continued, everytime I have moved home, I have taken the time to inform companies and people I know etc. what my forwarding address was, I also asked for the post office to redirect my mail for those that I may have missed, not once did i lose post or not receive what I was expecting, the people who lived in this house obviously have not done this, so you cannot be held responsible for their own lack of organisation.

While it has been nice to debate this issue with you JReacher1 I think I will leave it there as I feel I would only derail this thread, the OP can take whatever they feel valuable from all of the above posts.

custardy

gazebo wrote: »

As a postie, I've learned something new. Postie code? Um, ok then,maybe where you are from, but nope, never heard of this and have been in the job several years now

Think that one went over your head a little.

gazebo

Probably, it's been a long few weeks

hollydays

anamenottaken wrote: »

Was it really that simple?

If :
A has debts and lives at no 1
A calls a creditor and says they are B and A no longer lives at no 1

Will:
The company take the word of someone calling themselves B
and simply stop sending demands?

Or do you have to provide a bit more information than that?

I don't have to prove anything- I'm the house owner , not the debtor .
I guess they could check electoral role and see if they so wished.
Yes, it really was that simple.

jaylee3

missile wrote: »

It is legal to open mail addressed to another name when it is delivered to your address.


As with cold calling, chuggers and spam e mails; AFIK there is no effective method to stop mail addressed to someone who does not live at your address.

That is not always the case. This is a widely held common misconception. It is not always illegal to open letters not addressed to you.

anamenottaken wrote: »

Was it really that simple?

If :
A has debts and lives at no 1
A calls a creditor and says they are B and A no longer lives at no 1

Will:
The company take the word of someone calling themselves B
and simply stop sending demands?

Or do you have to provide a bit more information than that?

I agree. Simply telling a creditor that the debtor is 'no longer here' will not necessarily make them stop.

If it were me, I wouldn't care that the neighbour had signed, because it wouldn't have been my name. So I would have denied even getting it.

What you should do OP is have a wee word with the neighbours and say 'could you please not take in anything for me that is to be signed for? As I have been having troubles with previous occupiers of this property... getting stuff sent here that I don't want and didn't request. Normal post and parcels are OK yes, but nothing signed for. Just refuse.' I would be fine if my neighbour said that.

I took a package in a few years ago for an old neighbour (we were about to move in a few months and they were new-ish, 3 months at the property,) and I took a package in for them, as the courier said that they weren't in and they needed a signature. So I signed for this package, and took it around to their house later on that day. A few months later, I got a letter from the company who sent this item (it was a very expensive camera,) asking about the item, as the neighbour claims they never received it.

I wrote back saying I DID give it them, but they were really snotty and said 'their customer' (my neighbour) never got it! They said they would have to send their investigations team around in due course and they would prefer to not take legal action, so it may be best if we return the item to the neighbour! :eek:

They didn't believe us the cheeky swines!

Just a few weeks after this letter, we moved anyway (several years ago,) and I never heard anything else. They probably came to the house looking, a month or so after. My conscience is clear, as I know darned well I gave the neighbour their package.

About a year later, I heard from a friend who lived near to them, that they were evicted by the landlord about 4 months after I left, for not paying the rent for the whole 8 months they were there (except for the first 2 months...) Obviously sly moneygrabbing con artists!

Dazedandconfused

Heffi1 wrote: »

You make the assumption that the neighbour is happy to provide the service of accepting post, I think it would be prudent to at least have the conversation with the neighbour and explain what is going on, and you never know a friendship could develop while exchanging details.

Or stay in your own fortress and do not venture out into the world, god forbid you would take any time at all to get to know the people who live nearby.

A quick ten minute chat with next door and all of this is cleared up, nobody needs to get upset, after all it is not their post.

I would probably chuck the post away if it continued, everytime I have moved home, I have taken the time to inform companies and people I know etc. what my forwarding address was, I also asked for the post office to redirect my mail for those that I may have missed, not once did i lose post or not receive what I was expecting, the people who lived in this house obviously have not done this, so you cannot be held responsible for their own lack of organisation.

While it has been nice to debate this issue with you JReacher1 I think I will leave it there as I feel I would only derail this thread, the OP can take whatever they feel valuable from all of the above posts.

I'm not shy, they are never in are newish tenants and appear to have no interest in neighbours. I spoke to the previous tenants. We weren't best buddies but we'd always speak if we saw each other.

The other side is commercial premises the owner knows me but they aren't open when I'm at home so I don't know the employees.

I did go to the post office as I had to collect a parcel anyway. They said they'd send it back. I'll open the next one that comes.

I get post for 3 people on a regular basis and as far as I'm aware none of them have lived here.

mgdavid

Save all the angst and hot air, if they're not addressed to you drop them in the bin.

szam_

anamenottaken wrote: »

Was it really that simple?

If :
A has debts and lives at no 1
A calls a creditor and says they are B and A no longer lives at no 1

Will:
The company take the word of someone calling themselves B
and simply stop sending demands?

Or do you have to provide a bit more information than that?

I've been living in my newly rented property for about 4 months now. We get all sorts for the previous owner who is now, I believe, in Strangeways prison.

We've been getting new debit cards for him, endless bank statements from various companies, people knocking on the door asking for someone who doesn't even have the name of the person on the mail.

We are also contending with bailiff/debt collecters for a grand of Electricity/Gas bill debt, 600 quids worth of water debts, some housing association "ground charges" debt... all sorts. None of them will take him off the system. The debt collectors/bailiffs say, contact the companies involved, the companies say contact the debt collectors/bailiffs.

No matter how many we send back or inform are not at this address anymore, the mail still ends up here. We get more mail for this person than we do ourselves.