Tory Landlord uses Filibuster rule to allow Landlords to punish Tenants who complain

SerialRenter

You can watch here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04t136y/house-of-commons-28112014

It starts at about 12 mins in. Is interrupted from 1:27:00 to 1:55:40. The filibustering starts at 2:55:30 and ends at around 4:57:00.

gazter

jjlandlord wrote: »

The bill served its purpose, which was just to score a few points in the political game ahead of next year by portraying Labour as the good guys and anyone opposing the bill as the bad guys.

Precisely. If this was such a pressing issue of social justice labour would have done it when they had a majority of over a hundred for almost ten years, rather than now when in opposition.

antrobus

Generali wrote: »

Because this is just how Parliament works.....

If that nice Mr Blair or that even nicer Mr Brown had any concerns reagrding how Parliament operated, they could always have changed the rules.

Generali wrote: »

...Just because you support the Bill doesn't mean that the rules of Parliament are suddenly suspended. If the Government doesn't sponsor a Bill it's highly unlikely to become an Act.....

Although the bill was government supported.

See https://www.gov.uk/government/news/stephen-williams-vows-to-outlaw-revenge-evictions

jjlandlord wrote: »

The bill served its purpose, which was just to score a few points in the political game ahead of next year by portraying Labour as the good guys and anyone opposing the bill as the bad guys.

Don't know about that. The bill was put forward by Ms Teather, who is a LibDem MP. At least until May next year, when she will have to find another job.:) And, as noted above, the government were backing the bill.

The actual politics involved appears to be a trifle more subtle than that;

But what’s interesting is that the government decided to support this Bill at all. For the past year its stance has been that legislation on retaliatory evictions is not the right way to counter them. This followed a recommendation of the Communities and Local Government Select Committee that ‘changing the law to limit the issuing of section 21 notices might be counter-productive and stunt the market’.

And so forth

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/isabel-hardman/2014/11/tory-backbenchers-talk-out-revenge-evictions-bill/

jjlandlord

antrobus wrote: »

Don't know about that. The bill was put forward by Ms Teather, who is a LibDem MP.

OK, so the Libdem are trying to grab headlines and score a few points.
Same difference.
Or maybe she is just doing that to embarrass considering that she said that she "no longer feels that Nick Clegg's party fights sufficiently for social justice and liberal values on immigration".
However, she is so liberal that she voted against same-sex marriage...

antrobus wrote: »

And, as noted above, the government were backing the bill.

antrobus wrote: »

But what’s interesting is that the government decided to support this Bill at all. For the past year its stance has been that legislation on retaliatory evictions is not the right way to counter them.

As said, this is a trap: opposing the bill directly would mean being accused of supporting greedy landlords and the exploitation of tenants.
You know the usual "think of the children", "if you disagree the terrorists win", etc.

Not good ahead of the elections, and certainly not good after the 'plebgate'.

Seems to me that the strategy is thus just to let the bill die by itself, especially since this is a non-issue.

thor

jjlandlord wrote: »

As said, this is a trap: opposing the bill directly would mean being accused of supporting greedy landlords and the exploitation of tenants.
You know the usual "think of the children", "if you disagree the terrorists win", etc.

So what do you think 'Landlord' Philip Davies' motivation was to act as he did?

antrobus

thor wrote: »

So what do you think 'Landlord' Philip Davies' motivation was to act as he did?

Perhaps he agreed with the conclusions of the HoC Communities and Local Government Select Committee?

There is a perception amongst some tenants that if they speak out it could result in their losing their home. Tenants should be able to make requests or complain without fear that doing so will lead the landlord to seek possession. We are not convinced, however, that a legislative approach is the best or even an effective solution. Changing the law to limit the issuing of section 21 notices might be counter-productive and stunt the market.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmcomloc/50/5008.htm

The membership of the Communities and Local Government Select Committee is listed here.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/communities-and-local-government-committee/membership/

The chairman is the Labour member for Sheffield South-East. I think he's the one who got into trouble for employing a Brazilian male 'sex worker'. Or something like that. Not that it has anything to with AST's and s21 notices. But it is quite interesting.:)

jjlandlord

thor wrote: »

So what do you think 'Landlord' Philip Davies' motivation was to act as he did?

Is that an actual question?

Conrad

I'm looking at something like 6 months to evict a non paying tenant I have. No doubt he'll wreck the place into the bargain. Not nice having someone you trusted abuse your pension in this way.


I'm not seeking sympathy, just trying to give a sense of how it feels from the other side. I am a very conscientious LL as I understand happy tenants = happy LL with settled long term tenants and no interruptions having to find new tenants and having to re-decorate.

gazter

brit1234 wrote: »

Shame on Philip Davies MP, I hope he loses his seat at the election. Whether you are against or for the motion he should of allowed the vote, how undemocratic of him.:mad:

I found an appropriate picture of him.

You are quite a charmer.