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bankruptcy and IPA

HI all,

I am looking into going bankrupt soon. Both myself and my wife have a high level of unsecured debt and no assets.

I will be going bankrupt while my wife will attempt to enter a dmp *she has a HP vehicle she wpuld need to keep*

My question is probably a complicated one, I am a married father of 2 who has just started a university course. My income is solely from the student loans and grant i recieve to study.
I am wondering how the OR will work out my IPA if I have one and how much it is likely to be.
I undertstand that i need to get value to my creditors but would also like to ensure my wife and family are as comfortable as possible through the
worst of it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

SOA to follow

Comments

  • Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 2
    Number of cars owned.................... 1hp

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 953
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 590
    Benefits................................ 730
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 2273


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 0
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 282
    Rent.................................... 450
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 100
    Electricity............................. 70
    Gas..................................... 70
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 32
    Telephone (land line)................... 16
    Mobile phone............................ 30
    TV Licence.............................. 12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 20
    Groceries etc. ......................... 520
    Clothing................................ 120
    Petrol/diesel........................... 180
    Road tax................................ 25
    Car Insurance........................... 60
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 15
    Car parking............................. 25
    Other travel............................ 40
    Childcare/nursery....................... 80
    Other child related expenses............ 20
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 0
    Contents insurance...................... 15
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 20
    Haircuts................................ 30
    Entertainment........................... 20
    Holiday................................. 30
    Emergency fund.......................... 20
    Total monthly expenses.................. 2302



    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 0



    Secured & HP Debts

    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 0........(0)........0
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 8500.....(282)......14
    Total secured & HP debts...... 8500......-.........-


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    my debt........................25000.....0.........0
    wife debt excludinghp..........12500.....0.........0
    Total unsecured debts..........37500.....0.........-



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 2,273
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 2,302
    Available for debt repayments........... -29
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 0
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -29


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 0
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -8,500
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -37,500
    Net Assets.............................. -46,000


    Created using the SOA calculator at https://www.stoozing.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using Firefox browser.
  • psi2244
    psi2244 Posts: 253 Forumite
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    I was given a 0 tax code and the tax I would have normally paid had to be paid by me to the IPA.
  • tigerfeet2006
    tigerfeet2006 Posts: 14,030 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    If your income is solely the grants and benefits then you cannot be given an IPA so don't panic. As you are not working you also won't get a nil tax code.
    BSCno.87
    The only stupid question is an unasked one
    Loving life as a Kernow Hippy
  • Thanks guys.

    My income is made up of student loans (maintenance loan) approx 3200, maintenance grant approx 4000, adult dependants grant approx 2700, and parental learner allowance approx 1500.
    benefits ( child tax and working tax credits (144 per week)

    wifes income is between 590 and 668 per month after tax.

    the other question i have is that i have gambled inthe past two years will this likely lead to sanctions?

    Thanks
  • dan160987 wrote: »
    Thanks guys.

    My income is made up of student loans (maintenance loan) approx 3200, maintenance grant approx 4000, adult dependants grant approx 2700, and parental learner allowance approx 1500.
    benefits ( child tax and working tax credits (144 per week)

    wifes income is between 590 and 668 per month after tax.

    the other question i have is that i have gambled inthe past two years will this likely lead to sanctions?

    Thanks

    Hi dan160987

    I am also a full time uni student, I get approximately the same grants and loans as you mention above (as I also have two children), and my husband earns about the same as your wife, so weirdly enough have approx the same incomings. I went bankrupt in April this year and I haven't had an IPA, in fact I haven't heard anything from the OR since going bankrupt, so I'm presuming I would have heard by now. So just to put your mind at ease I doubt very much you'll have an IPA either.

    Can't answer the gambling question I'm afraid, no doubt someone else will be along to answer that shortly!

    Saltysea99 :beer:
  • alastairq
    alastairq Posts: 5,030 Forumite
    i have gambled in the past two years will this likely lead to sanctions?

    The above, might result in the OR imposing a Bankruptcy Restriction Order/Undertaking.

    What this means is the restrictions imposed whilst Undischarged [concerning directorships, school governors,,etc etc]......continue for the period the BRO/U is in force.

    This does not mean you will be the possible subject of a surplus-based IPA during this period.....[once the 12 month AD point is passed]

    As Tigerfeet says, since your income is basically 'benefits' based,not IPA will be sought.
    No, I don't think all other drivers are idiots......but some are determined to change my mind.......
  • Mmusic
    Mmusic Posts: 20 Forumite
    edited 6 November 2014 at 4:56PM
    There's a few things on the SOA that the OR wont accept.


    entertainment £20
    Presents £20


    Correct me if i am wrong.
  • tigerfeet2006
    tigerfeet2006 Posts: 14,030 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    As the OP is on benefits it won't matter and as he is showing a deficit anyway it's not really going to matter. He takes them off and he is in balance. No biggie on this one.
    BSCno.87
    The only stupid question is an unasked one
    Loving life as a Kernow Hippy
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