net or gross?

Whatagain68

Hi
My husband was overpaid in his wages this month - this was because he has been on statutory sick pay for 2-3 months and now qualifies for full time pay as he has been there over a certain period of time. They paid him full time for last month plus this months wage. He told them straight away and we have put the extra payment aside so we are able to pay it back but they are now asking for double the amount back that he received. They want the gross pay back plus the statutory sick pay and we are getting confused with all the figures they have given us. In a nutshell he received about £1,000 more but they are asking for £2,000 to be paid back - this will leave us with no wages for the next 2 months. Is this right? He has a meeting with them next week.

chrisbur

Can you give full figures? Gross tax NI other deductions net pay for what was paid and then advise what gross should have been paid, if possible splitting between company sick and SSP.


What I would expect to happen is for the gross over-payment to be deducted from future gross payments possibly with an adjustment to correct NI which may not correct without it.

Whatagain68

Hi
His payslip reads:-


Salary £2,078
Salary £1,557
Pension £ 16-
Pension £ 15-
Payable SSP £ 472-
Allowance £ 46
Unpaid Hrs Deducted £ 214-


Deductions:-
Tax £ 468
NI £ 301
Sharesave etc £ 85


Net pay £2,324


He normally comes out with about £1,200 per months give or take. They are wanting £2,007 back but said not to take that figure for granted until after his meeting with them.


Many thanks

Whatagain68

just noticed it should say "unpaid hours deducted - 214.6 hrs not £"


Many thanks

chrisbur

Do you know what gross should have been paid?

Whatagain68

£1,557 plus 1 extra days pay - he is paid 2 week in advance.

chrisbur

We have a gross pay of 3635 plus an allowance of 46 to give 3681
This has then been reduced by 472 for SSP to give 3209
Tax 468
NI301
Share save 85
Pension 31


Net pay 2324

They have reduced the gross by £472 for SSP as that was paid but they are now paying salary which includes the payment of SSP. As the SSP was paid in the past they are now reducing that salary by the amount of SSP paid. That is all fine if that was an end to the matter but they now say we overpaid and want the money back, we overpaid by £2007. But if they have their £2007 back they are no longer entitled to take back the SSP, well they can have one day as that remains paid so they must now reduce the £2007 they want back by the SSP figure £472 less one day £17-51 assuming 5 qualifying days ie £454.49. So amount owing is £1552.51.

This should then be adjusted in the gross pay somewhere. If done in next month's salary would leave £4.49 gross for next month or a bit more if that allowance is payable, which with the extra paid this month and a tax rebate should be about what you normally get. Better still suggest they do it over a couple of months taking half at a time otherwise you will have no NI credit for the adjusting month.
Otherwise they should re-calculate the wage to work out the correct net and take that away from the net actually paid and that should be the amount you pay them which in rough figures should be just a bit over £1000.

Whatagain68

Thank you so much - he has a meeting with HR tomorrow - is a relief that he can now go in with this information. Many thanks again.