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Orville
Orville Posts: 1,906 Forumite
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edited 21 October 2014 at 7:09PM in Child support
Have the maintenance amounts changed recently..?

My ex earns around £600 per week. I only get £30 by private arrangement at the moment.

I am sick of being taken for a fool and am now going to make things more formal.

I went on the government calculator things and it says the amount should be £53 a week..?

She has our child for the summer holidays which if you average it out over a year it falls into the 52 - 103 nights per week bracket.

She also has two other kids living with her.

Now i did some sums via what i thought the csa amounts were 15% for one child. I know she does have a couple more but really does it go down from 15% = £89 a week to £53..?

*Edit*.

This is something i have just thought of. She is getting married to her b/f next year. Would any of his income be taken into account..?

is it just her earnings or other benefits she receives too such as tax credits and cb...

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  • shoe*diva79
    shoe*diva79 Posts: 1,356 Forumite
    Yes, the new scheme is worked out on Gross pay, not net and the % are different.

    If you were to open a case you would have to pay a £20 application fee. I believe that its 12% gross but she would have discounts for children living in her household and further discount for overnight stays.
  • Orville
    Orville Posts: 1,906 Forumite
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    edited 21 October 2014 at 7:41PM
    Yes, the new scheme is worked out on Gross pay, not net and the % are different.

    If you were to open a case you would have to pay a £20 application fee. I believe that its 12% gross but she would have discounts for children living in her household and further discount for overnight stays.


    Is it just her income that is taken into account or Household income, meanings spousal income and benefits etc..?

    Also can i insist on a deo rather then arrangement.

    The eldest child out of the two also turns 16 next month. When is the cut off point for that child to now be included..? or are there other factors taken into account..
  • shoe*diva79
    shoe*diva79 Posts: 1,356 Forumite
    Just her income will be taken into consideration. And no, you cannot insist on a DEO. Infact, she will be encouraged to pay you directly because if the CMS collect and pay then you and her will both pay charges based on the assessment (you 4% of the assessment and her 20% charge on top of assessment).

    The cut off is 20 years old as long as child in education.
  • Orville
    Orville Posts: 1,906 Forumite
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    Ok, if she pays directly, how is the assessment done and handled?. I would prefer to at least let the csa handle it. I dont mind paying 4%

    She is devious and probably wont provide recent pay slips as she would have convienantly lost them. All i want is what i am due, nothing more. I have been ripped off for the last few years, my own doing i admit. Time now as i said to get what i am due.
  • shoe*diva79
    shoe*diva79 Posts: 1,356 Forumite
    You call them, pay £20 and they will look at her last P60 information via the HMRC and make an assessment on that. Its is then reviewed each year. She can have a deduction for her pension as well so the £600 a week you claim to know she earns wont be the figure used. It would be less and then subject to the deductions for overnight stays and other children.

    Even if she did have to provide payslips, if she couldn't, then the CMS could go to her employer.

    You sound quite bitter, I would try and calm that down and if your adamant that you cant have an adult conversation with her regarding increasing the CM then give the CMS a call.

    Bear in mind though, in reality you have no idea how much money she earns. Anything could have changed which she wouldn't have had to have told you regarding her salary. You might be cutting your nose off to spite your face. £30 is quite a decent assessment per week.
  • Orville
    Orville Posts: 1,906 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker PPI Party Pooper
    You call them, pay £20 and they will look at her last P60 information via the HMRC and make an assessment on that. Its is then reviewed each year. She can have a deduction for her pension as well so the £600 a week you claim to know she earns wont be the figure used. It would be less and then subject to the deductions for overnight stays and other children.

    Even if she did have to provide payslips, if she couldn't, then the CMS could go to her employer.

    You sound quite bitter, I would try and calm that down and if your adamant that you cant have an adult conversation with her regarding increasing the CM then give the CMS a call.

    Bear in mind though, in reality you have no idea how much money she earns. Anything could have changed which she wouldn't have had to have told you regarding her salary. You might be cutting your nose off to spite your face. £30 is quite a decent assessment per week.

    Hi,
    Not bitter, lets just say suddenly found a determination to get what I should.

    I know she gets at least £600 a week as she let slip her payband. That was best part of a year ago. I suspect now it would be even more.

    Thank you for the advice it is much appreciated.. :-)
  • Orville wrote: »
    Ok, if she pays directly, how is the assessment done and handled?. I would prefer to at least let the csa handle it. I dont mind paying 4%

    She is devious and probably wont provide recent pay slips as she would have convienantly lost them. All i want is what i am due, nothing more. I have been ripped off for the last few years, my own doing i admit. Time now as i said to get what i am due.

    As there's not been a case previously then she would be given the opportunity to pay you directly - this would be at the rate that the CMS calculate.

    As mentioned below, this would save you the 4% (and her the 20%) collection fees, but it means that you've got the added assurance where if she pays you less than she should, or doesn't pay at all, then CMS would collect this money on your behalf (and she could potentially have the money collected directly from her wages).
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