My leaving is not convenient

[Deleted User]

While I knew it wouldn't be easy... I'm at a loss of how to handle this. Blame it that I've done 8 months nearly, and been the model employee lol! up till now!!

Tried to hand in my notice Monday just gone and the relatively new manager we have is trying to sweep it under the carpet and ignore it - because it reflects badly on them and as they put it 'because I'd be hard to replace' even got to the point where they tried to say I was being bullied and someone I work with is seemingly being fitted up although it is deeper then that - my concern is can they write about perceived bullying in a reference?
I just don't want to be vulnerable in my new position

If I get my new employer to be, to request a reference will it bring things to the suffice? only cause there was a recent thread on here giving me idea's... (sorry)

TELLIT01

Your existing employer would put themselves in a very dangerous situation if they put information which wasn't true into a reference. To be honest, most companies these days say very little in references apart from the fact that you have been employed from x date to y date because they are scared of being sued either by the new employer or the ex employee. I don't think you should worry.

tir21

just write a letter telling them you are resigning your position and what your last day of working for them will be

it may be inconvenient for them if you leave - but it is equally inconvenient for you to pass up what is probably a better job

LittleVoice

Deleted%20User wrote: »

While I knew it wouldn't be easy... I'm at a loss of how to handle this. Blame it that I've done 8 months nearly, and been the model employee lol! up till now!!

Tried to hand in my notice Monday just gone and the relatively new manager we have is trying to sweep it under the carpet and ignore it - because it reflects badly on them and as they put it 'because I'd be hard to replace' even got to the point where they tried to say I was being bullied and someone I work with is seemingly being fitted up although it is deeper then that - my concern is can they write about perceived bullying in a reference?
I just don't want to be vulnerable in my new position

If I get my new employer to be, to request a reference will it bring things to the suffice? only cause there was a recent thread on here giving me idea's... (sorry)

Saying "tried" suggests you didn't actually do it. Have you handed in your notice? If you have, ensure that your manager is progressing it - like advising his manager and HR. If he is not doing this, send a copy to HR yourself. They cannot refuse to accept your resignation.

Reggie_Rebel

tir21 wrote: »

just write a letter telling them you are resigning your position and what your last day of working for them will be

it may be inconvenient for them if you leave - but it is equally inconvenient for you to pass up what is probably a better job

This, science of the rocket it ain't (unless you are working for a rocket making organisation in which case it may be)

[Deleted User]

I finished the job! And make it aware I wasn't being bullied, still got a bit to lose

My question now really is does contractual terms override statutory, even under the 2 years of service? - I've got my present employer saying that notice terms for both parties are 4 weeks and - a said fact they are intent on sticking to and reared up if the boot was on the other foot I just honestly can't see any employer favouring their own contracts if statutory works out better for them? had discussion today when they refute the April 2012 change?

New problem being I have a lot of holiday to use, a real silly situation borne by the employer when it became difficult to take, whilst my employer has refused this now to be used in any part (as is their right I get this) and in fact initially asked me to lengthen my notice more then the 4 weeks, OMG I am just a self trained Agent I tried negotiation, on top of what is their emotions fuelling this which is just getting nowhere, the only avenue from the most unlikely ally is that probation passed wasn't confirmed passed in writing but even I do think that is a long shot and I'm sure as I carried on working, I'm deemed to have accepted the conditions per se?

Thanks for any help I am thinking this is grievance time? though this troubles me, if notice is retracted what stops an employer then saying bye and giving a weeks notice to someone under 2 years fairly safe, that no claim can be brought? (which I'm awfully sure I've seen at this place..) I'm just intrigued whilst I go and try to find out how to split myself in 2 that seems the easiest option! :cool: The boss is still trying to keep this hush hush for reasons known only to themselves whilst I seem to have done myself a dis-service turning up for work everyday or that is what it is starting to feel like

mgdavid

Deleted%20User wrote: »

I finished the job! And make it aware I wasn't being bullied, still got a bit to lose

My question now really is does contractual terms override statutory, even under the 2 years of service? - I've got my present employer saying that notice terms for both parties are 4 weeks and - a said fact they are intent on sticking to and reared up if the boot was on the other foot I just honestly can't see any employer favouring their own contracts if statutory works out better for them? had discussion today when they refute the April 2012 change?

New problem being I have a lot of holiday to use, a real silly situation borne by the employer when it became difficult to take, whilst my employer has refused this now to be used in any part (as is their right I get this) and in fact initially asked me to lengthen my notice more then the 4 weeks, OMG I am just a self trained Agent I tried negotiation, on top of what is their emotions fuelling this which is just getting nowhere, the only avenue from the most unlikely ally is that probation passed wasn't confirmed passed in writing but even I do think that is a long shot and I'm sure as I carried on working, I'm deemed to have accepted the conditions per se?

Thanks for any help I am thinking this is grievance time? though this troubles me, if notice is retracted what stops an employer then saying bye and giving a weeks notice to someone under 2 years fairly safe, that no claim can be brought? (which I'm awfully sure I've seen at this place..) I'm just intrigued whilst I go and try to find out how to split myself in 2 that seems the easiest option! :cool: The boss is still trying to keep this hush hush for reasons known only to themselves whilst I seem to have done myself a dis-service turning up for work everyday or that is what it is starting to feel like

I know it's late but I find this post hard to follow! In your place I would have clarified my notice period with HR/personnel, worked out my leaving date, worked back from that with all outstanding holiday, and *then* written the Resignation, telling them what would be your last working day in the office. And the resignation letter should be copied to HR/personnel too.
This way you are in control of the situation, you are the one that matters here. You don't need to pay any attention to all the other rubbish about not accepting it, longer notice, can't have the holiday, inconvenient or whatever, that's all bullshine. If they had valued you and provided a pleasant and rewarding working environment you would have stayed, you can tell them that on your last day.
Good luck in the new job, it'll be great!

p00hsticks

Deleted%20User wrote: »

My question now really is does contractual terms override statutory, even under the 2 years of service?

Yes - if your contract says 4 weeks notice, that's how long you have to give, even though it's more than the statutory amount.

agrinnall

What would be the point of a grievance when you'll be out of the door in less than 4 weeks? Concentrate your efforts on ensuring you can leave when the notice period ends (or earlier of that's what you want and you can persuade your employer to agree) and confirming that your untaken holiday will be paid in your final pay.

bargainbetty

You are obliged to give them the contract terms of notice, and nothing more. They are obliged to pay you for or allow you to take all accrued holiday time. Either you agree a date and then book holiday, or you take the money at the end of your notice (it is taxable).

They really don't have a leg to stand on. Stop negotiating, and give them the two choices they actually have. Ask your boss why he is keeping it quiet, and insist that your colleagues are advised so that you can do a handover of any tasks.

[Deleted User]

bargainbetty wrote: »

Ask your boss why he is keeping it quiet, and insist that your colleagues are advised so that you can do a handover of any tasks.

OK I found out why there has been so much agro and the quietness...
just goes to show, the company who allege playing by the rules broke their own - they only went and allowed the Manager to have holiday when it isn't contractually allowed during the probationary period whatsoever for anyone and leaves our department short up till the date I was conveniently given to leave

So glad I didn't/haven't yet retracted my notice

This is more like build a defence! I've really done with playing fair