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tberry6686

Depends what you mean by fair share. If you mean as a percentage then Higher earners already pay more than low earners due to tax brackets (except for the ones who can afford tax avoidance measures).

I am classed as a high earner (based on tax brackets) and in no way should I be paying more. The tax take in this country is already very high when compared with most other countries.

CLAPTON

redcard wrote: »

None of these entrepreneurs have left the country yet, so I can only presume they're absolutely delighted with the amount of tax they're paying.

So I would define 'fair share' as a bit more than they're paying just jow.

inane but hopefully ironic

redcard

tberry6686 wrote: »

Depends what you mean by fair share. If you mean as a percentage then Higher earners already pay more than low earners due to tax brackets (except for the ones who can afford tax avoidance measures).

I am classed as a high earner (based on tax brackets) and in no way should I be paying more. The tax take in this country is already very high when compared with most other countries.

Why shouldn't you pay more? I don't see why you should be exempt from any tax increases.

redcard

CLAPTON wrote: »

inane but hopefully ironic

So you agree that the amount of tax the rich pay is 'just right'?

CLAPTON

redcard wrote: »

So you agree that the amount of tax the rich pay is 'just right'?

my question is what does 'fair' mean in terms of tax.
indeed I don't even know what 'rich' means either.

I didn't think you would know either but just wanted to ask.

redcard

CLAPTON wrote: »

my question is what does 'fair' mean in terms of tax.
indeed I don't even know what 'rich' means either.

I didn't think you would know either but just wanted to ask.

What fair means is purely subjective, but I think you already know that. And no, it doesn't always mean more. The last 20 years it's been less and less. Let's not pretend otherwise.

The point is the tax system isn't perfect and there's plenty of scope to tweak it without people suffering too much. The rich aren't complaining about anything.

tberry6686 thinks the tax take in this country is 'very high' but he doesn't seem too miffed about it. So why not increase his tax liability a tiny bit more, maybe until he's a 'little miffed'? He wouldn't even notice.

CLAPTON

redcard wrote: »

What fair means is purely subjective, but I think you already know that. And no, it doesn't always mean more. The last 20 years it's been less and less. Let's not pretend otherwise.

The point is the tax system isn't perfect and there's plenty of scope to tweak it without people suffering too much. The rich aren't complaining about anything.

tberry6686 thinks the tax take in this country is 'very high' but he doesn't seem too miffed about it. So why not increase his tax liability a tiny bit more, maybe until he's a 'little miffed'? He wouldn't even notice.

why not stop using the word 'fair' if it means nothing.


we are a rich country : even the lower quartile have a living standard the envy of most of the world so yes we could all pay a tiny bit more without suffering although I guess most of us would notice.

oh and believe me, many of my rich friends complain about the high tax : you just don't get out enough.

MobileSaver

redcard wrote: »

Letting the top earners away with paying minimal tax has not done much do the economy as it is, so why not wait and see what happens when they pay their fair share?

Not paying their "fair share"?!?!? :rotfl:

Let's assume you yourself are on the average UK wage... did you realise that the top 50,000 or so earners in the country pay more tax in one year than you will pay in your entire life! If that is not paying their fair share then I don't know what is.

Just think about that for one minute; the top earners in 2014 will pay more income tax in just this one year than you will pay in your entire working life.

How anyone could claim that is getting away with "paying minimal tax" is beyond me.

redcard

CLAPTON wrote: »

why not stop using the word 'fair' if it means nothing.


we are a rich country : even the lower quartile have a living standard the envy of most of the world so yes we could all pay a tiny bit more without suffering although I guess most of us would notice.

oh and believe me, many of my rich friends complain about the high tax : you just don't get out enough.

So what are your rich friends doing about it? Probably not much, eh?

redcard

MobileSaver wrote: »

Not paying their "fair share"?!?!? :rotfl:

Let's assume you yourself are on the average UK wage... did you realise that the top 50,000 or so earners in the country pay more tax in one year than you will pay in your entire life! If that is not paying their fair share then I don't know what is.

Just think about that for one minute; the top earners in 2014 will pay more income tax in just this one year than you will pay in your entire working life.

How anyone could claim that is getting away with "paying minimal tax" is beyond me.

Not quite sure you have much of a point there. There's nothing of substance worth arguing against.

Can you tell me what would happen if the top earners paid just a tiny bit more in tax?

This is what would happen:

You know one way to right the wrong you see in the tax system? Pay low earners more so they pay more in tax.