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francohoops
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in Cutting tax
I currently own a property 50/50 with my sister. It was inherited, has no mortgage and is rented on a long term contract with a housing association.
My wife is a stay at home mum, so I’d like to split my share with her so that we can take advantage of her income tax personal allowance. The original plan was 25% each.
Having spoken to my solicitor, he has advised holding the 50% share as joint tenants – so that if anything happened to me or my wife our shares would revert to each other.
My question is going forward, I planned to split the income from the rent 50/50 with my wife, so we’d both need to fill out a self-assessment form. My tax liability would subsequently fall. Now we are not actually specifying how much each of us hold out of the 50%, how would the income tax be split be viewed? Would it still be a 50/50 split, or could I increase her share and what would be the implications?
Thanks in advance
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My wife is a stay at home mum, so I’d like to split my share with her so that we can take advantage of her income tax personal allowance. The original plan was 25% each.
Having spoken to my solicitor, he has advised holding the 50% share as joint tenants – so that if anything happened to me or my wife our shares would revert to each other.
My question is going forward, I planned to split the income from the rent 50/50 with my wife, so we’d both need to fill out a self-assessment form. My tax liability would subsequently fall. Now we are not actually specifying how much each of us hold out of the 50%, how would the income tax be split be viewed? Would it still be a 50/50 split, or could I increase her share and what would be the implications?
Thanks in advance
F
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you are married, tax law therefore dictates the split with your wife must be 50/50 unless you register a Form 17 with HMRC
you will need to check with your solicitor how you actually own the property with your sister. I do not think all 3 of you can own it under a joint tenancy, as by definition that would mean 33.33% each, which obviously is not what your sister is actually entitled to.
Therefore I think you would have to own it as tenants in common with sister having 50% and you and your wife splitting the remaining 50% in whatever portion you want eg 25/25, 0/50 etc
On that basis Form 17 % between you/wife must mirror the actual tenant in common split with your wife, you cannot nominate a different split for income tax purposes to that which is actually recorded as the tenant in common split between you and your wife
Form 17: http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kb5/hmrc/forms/view.page?record=TS9D3da9t7I&formId=51590 -
How would holding as joint tenants work in this situation? You currently have (I assume) the property split between OH and sister as tenants in common 50/50. I don't think you are in a position to subdivide the OP's 50% as joint tenants and have this registered in the deeds.
I don't think that you can mix and match tenancy types on deeds, it's got to be one or the other.This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
Thanks for your replies
The proposed split is as follows as per the draft TR1
"they hold the property on trust: as to 50% thereof for SISTER as tenants in common and
as to 50% thereof for ME and MY WIFE as joint tenants inter se"
So to be clear
the income generated from the property should be split 50:25:25 for tax purposes between my sister, me and my wife
and if either my wife or I pass away then our share reverts to either survivor
Is it a good idea to draft a will to re-iterate that point? Also if we both passed at the same time - how would I ensure our shares went to our children?
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pay a solicitor for proper legal advice
https://www.gov.uk/make-will/overview
http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/for-the-public/common-legal-issues/making-a-will/
http://www.step.org/online-directory might be of interest.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/inheritancetax/0 -
Also http://freewillsmonth.org.uk/ (although only for over 55s in England and Wales).0
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