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Is there a central registry for property deeds?

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  • Goldiegirl
    Goldiegirl Posts: 8,821 Forumite
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    Thank you Land Registry person, a great definitive answer.

    When I worked at a big lender I used to love looking at old Title Deeds. I'll have to keep a look out at boot fairs, as it'd be nice to have an old Deed or two for myself.

    My house is only 25 years old, and we are the only occupants since new, so our Deeds aren't that interesting!
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  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite

    Your property as bought 18 years ago and mortgaged would be registered. If the property was first registered as a result of your purchase then the original deeds would have been lodged with us to create an electronic register (record of ownership) and the original deeds returned to the applicant, your solicitor. In most cases those original deeds are then held by the lender as traditionally they would see that as additional security around their mortgage.

    .

    Thanks,fine reply, I wondered where you were?

    The only thing to add to that is that my home was not mortgaged by me, I bought it outright as a project.
    And thinking about it neither was the other property, my father bought that outright back in 1970.
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  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,574 Forumite
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    Have you checked at the LR to see if the properties are registered?
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    edited 24 September 2014 at 12:37PM
    Goldiegirl wrote: »
    Thank you Land Registry person, a great definitive answer.

    When I worked at a big lender I used to love looking at old Title Deeds. I'll have to keep a look out at boot fairs, as it'd be nice to have an old Deed or two for myself.

    My house is only 25 years old, and we are the only occupants since new, so our Deeds aren't that interesting!

    I know what you mean about the deeds, I did fully read ours and I think I even copied them, must search the copy out.

    What I remember was that the house was built for the school headmistress in 1935, I forget the cost, and was at the time a stand alone bungalow. Houses were built up the hill and down the hill since.

    Now get this, my first home was a mid terraced property in an ex-mining village. I sold it for £10800 in 1983.
    It was originally built in 1875 at a cost of, ready,£246.00

    It was actually a few coppers more, I don't recall, but the deeds even showed a breakdown of the building costs, very interesting
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  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    Mojisola wrote: »
    Have you checked at the LR to see if the properties are registered?

    I haven't yet, but I know the 2nd 1 isn't and given the info in the post above, I don't think my home will be either.

    I'm going to check out the address given to me since I first posted, It should be the current address of the company that took over from the firm I used.

    The 2nd lot of deeds were returned to the solicitors after probate last year, I know were they are.


    What's the cost of registering these assuming I DIY?
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  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,574 Forumite
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    You can search for free -
    https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk/www/wps/portal/!ut/p/b1/04_SjzS0tDQwMTIxMjLXj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOKNjSxMDA1NjDwsjM3MDTxN3dyNDUNMjQ1MjPWDU_P0c6McFQH3SLFU/
    You only pay if you want a copy of the deeds.

    The price of voluntary first registration is lower than compulsory ones - the actual figure depends on the value of your house.
    https://www.gov.uk/registering-land-or-property-with-land-registry/register-for-the-first-time

    There are some copy-cat sites so make sure you use the gov.uk one.
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,317 Organisation Representative
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    edited 25 September 2014 at 9:23AM
    If you bought it 18 years ago so circs 1996 then it should be registered as all of England & Wales was 'compulsorily registerable' (CR) from 1990 onwards.

    You can check what dates for CR applied for which areas of England & Wales in section 8 of our online guidance

    If the purchase pre-dates the CR date as listed for the area then unless you have mortgaged since it should not be registered. The guidance gives you a 'feel' for how registration has to some extent spread across E&W over the decades

    And apologies for thinking you had a mortgage on your property - I must have misread an earlier post
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  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    edited 25 September 2014 at 9:16AM
    OK, I got this for my home, the 1 I bought in 1996;

    Find a property - purchase documents
    Address:
    blah
    blah
    blah
    Tenure: Freehold

    Price Paid/Value Stated Data:
    Sorry, there is no price paid/value stated information available for this property.

    Buy Type Cost
    Title register (example Link opens in new window) £3.00
    Title plan (example Link opens in new window) £3.00
    Flood Risk Indicator result (exampleLink opens in new window) £9.00 (excl. VAT)
    Total: £0.00

    and this for the 2nd 1;

    Find a property - purchase documents
    Address:

    blah
    blah
    blah
    Tenure: n/a

    Price Paid/Value Stated Data:
    n/a

    Sorry, we do not have a record of any titles for this property. This does not necessarily mean that the property is unregistered.
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  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,317 Organisation Representative
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    First property - registered and you can view the register/title plan online for £3 each if you want or need to
    The price you paid will not be shown as the registration pre-dates the year that this was reintroduced

    Second property - suggests the property is unregistered as no information available online. Check the link I gave you in the earlier post to match date of purchase with the CR date as listed for that area
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    First property - registered and you can view the register/title plan online for £3 each if you want or need to
    The price you paid will not be shown as the registration pre-dates the year that this was reintroduced

    Second property - suggests the property is unregistered as no information available online. Check the link I gave you in the earlier post to match date of purchase with the CR date as listed for that area

    Very helpful, a big thanks to you and the others:T:T, I now have the info I needed.
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