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Panels that match my roof!

rogerblack
rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
edited 14 September 2014 at 10:49AM in Green & ethical MoneySaving
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http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/solar-panel-amorphous-100w_1915794107.html

In principle, this would let me cover my roof with solar panels, for around 2.5K, getting 6kW, and matching the local roofs.

Having said that - while they claim 25 years - I'm not at the moment finding out how to ship a hundred here :)

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  • It might be difficult to find an inverter to run with these panels. They are high voltage, low current (140V, 1.2A). Most inverters expect the panels to be around 30V and 10A.

    Dave F
    Solar PV System 1: 2.96kWp South+8 degrees. Roof 38 degrees. 'Normal' system
    Solar PV System 2: 3.00kWp South-4 degrees. Roof 28 degrees. SolarEdge system
    EV car, Evec charger
    Lux LXP 3600 ACS + 6 x 2.4kWh Aoboet LFP 2400 battery storage. Installed Feb 2021
    Location: Bedfordshire
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    Panels are generally attached in series strings, with a 600V or so max on the inverter.
    If shading is not an issue, simply connecting five two panel strings in parallel would give more or less the same output as 4 conventional panels in series.
  • Ectophile
    Ectophile Posts: 8,350 Forumite
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    edited 14 September 2014 at 9:23PM
    6kW will be outside the maximum for a normal domestic install. That is limited to 16A on a single-phase supply, which works out about 3.8kW (depending on the mains voltage at the time).
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • If you wanted a 4kWp system and put 4 of these 100W panels in series, you would need 10 parallel strings. It would only need one of the strings to be under - performing to drag down the whole system. This is 5 times more likely than a standard 2 string system.

    My first system is a standard 2 string system and looses 25% of its output when one of the strings is shaded by the chimney during a few hours in the morning.

    Dave F
    Solar PV System 1: 2.96kWp South+8 degrees. Roof 38 degrees. 'Normal' system
    Solar PV System 2: 3.00kWp South-4 degrees. Roof 28 degrees. SolarEdge system
    EV car, Evec charger
    Lux LXP 3600 ACS + 6 x 2.4kWh Aoboet LFP 2400 battery storage. Installed Feb 2021
    Location: Bedfordshire
  • rogerblack wrote: »


    In principle, this would let me cover my roof with solar panels, for around 2.5K, getting 6kW, and matching the local roofs.

    Having said that - while they claim 25 years - I'm not at the moment finding out how to ship a hundred here :)


    Well I have faced similar problem earlier and it was the main reason I dropped the idea of using solar power..
  • ed110220
    ed110220 Posts: 1,634 Forumite
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    How would this match your roof?
    Solar install June 2022, Bath
    4.8 kW array, Growatt SPH5000 inverter, 1x Seplos Mason 280L V3 battery 15.2 kWh.
    SSW roof. ~22° pitch, BISF house. 12 x 400W Hyundai panels
  • lstar337
    lstar337 Posts: 3,443 Forumite
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    ed110220 wrote: »
    How would this match your roof?
    I'm guessing red panel matches a red tile roof.
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    edited 15 September 2014 at 11:39AM
    Ectophile wrote: »
    6kW will be outside the maximum for a normal domestic install. That is limited to 16A on a single-phase supply, which works out about 3.8kW (depending on the mains voltage at the time).

    Without permission, yes.

    My default position would be that this would not be a FIT project, and probably not even directly connected to the mains, but for ~3K would cover most of my electricity needs.
    6kw(times insolation) covers my usage for almost the entirety of the day for much of the year - especially with these panels that are somewhat more efficient at lower lights.
    Thermal stores for refrigeration during the day, and heating during the night, powered from a heat-pump.

    Switch over to economy 7 as I'll be using ~0 during the day for most months of the year.

    A significant portion of the cost would be recovered from savings of not having to replace the roof under the panels.
  • Ectophile
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    If you're not using a grid-tied inverter, or a huge battery bank, then you could be switching back and forth between mains and solar quite a lot.

    On a cloudy day, you might only get say 1kW out of 6kW of panels. That's fine for base load, but not to boil a kettle, or run many other domestic appliances.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • Ectophile wrote: »
    If you're not using a grid-tied inverter, or a huge battery bank, then you could be switching back and forth between mains and solar quite a lot.

    On a cloudy day, you might only get say 1kW out of 6kW of panels. That's fine for base load, but not to boil a kettle, or run many other domestic appliances.

    Indeed - I'd be running a boiling water reservoir to replace the kettle, and a moderate battery bank to provide load smoothing for high draw appliances.
    Practically speaking, >90% of my energy is used at under a kilowatt.
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