CSA - Increase in payments??

linclass

Hello,
My partner and his (almost) ex made a private agreement (not CSA) regarding child support - 2 children ages 12 & 17/£505 per month. She has phoned him earlier today, to advise that the CSA have in April (?) this year increased the weekly support rate for 2 children, and she wants next months' payment to include the extra backdated to April this year.

I have searched on Google but cannot find any mention of a payment increase in April this year!

Is this correct, does anyone know? Did the rates change in April or indeed anytime this year?

Thanks for your help.

LL

HoneyNutLoop

The short answer is no.

The percentage rates under the 2003 scheme (administered by the CSA) are the same now as they were when the scheme was brought in.

In December 2012 the new gross income scheme was introduced (administered by CMS) but the percentage rates were reduced to compensate for the move from net to gross income.

In June this year, application fees were introduced for the 2012 (gross income) scheme only, and in August collection and enforcement charges were introduced where CMS are responsible for collecting maintenance in addition to calculating it.

Perhaps she can direct you to the source of her information, so you are able to clear up the confusion.

linclass

HoneyNutLoop wrote: »

The short answer is no.

The percentage rates under the 2003 scheme (administered by the CSA) are the same now as they were when the scheme was brought in.

In December 2012 the new gross income scheme was introduced (administered by CMS) but the percentage rates were reduced to compensate for the move from net to gross income.

In June this year, application fees were introduced for the 2012 (gross income) scheme only, and in August collection and enforcement charges were introduced where CMS are responsible for collecting maintenance in addition to calculating it.

Perhaps she can direct you to the source of her information, so you are able to clear up the confusion.

HoneyNutLoop, many thanks for this. Sadly, this woman is out to get every-single-last-penny that she can - My partner GAVE her the house and all the contents and the car. He left with 5 boxes of personal belongings - when he went to collect his power tools she had sold them! She's never worked,and is claiming half his pension. I can now fully understand ** Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned** ....

jacklink

as far as im aware if he marrys again (or she marrys again) she cant have his pension, (i maybe wrong) take care

linclass

Hi jacklink, thanks for this. I am not being divorced (as yet) so we cannot get married, and without sounding toooo nasty, I doubt anyone would want to marry her. Oh stop it now, this IS bringing out the very worst in me, lol.

jacklink

he pays a lot, ok if he gets £1000 a week, have you used the csa calculator

https://www.gov.uk/calculate-your-child-maintenance/y

linclass

I think he is paying her OVER what the calculator suggested, jacklink. He has his children's welfare at heart. I personally am not even sure she spends it all on those children..

jacklink

in reality, how can you spend £500 EVERY month on kids stuff ? only so many pairs of shoes you can buy, only so many activitys kids can do, gas and electricity isnt too much a month, food, how many maccy dees can one buy, and rent/ mortgage will be paid, let her go to the csa, i bet the kids dont know how much he gives for them. in addition she will also be getting other moneys for them such as child benefit ect, shes on a winner, is he paying so much because he feels 'guilt'? he needs to stop being soft and start being practical or she will play him for all she can get, (especially if shes scorned)

take care many are going through the same thing x

shoe*diva79

linclass wrote: »

I think he is paying her OVER what the calculator suggested, jacklink. He has his children's welfare at heart. I personally am not even sure she spends it all on those children..

Oh come on... if she isnt spending the money on the children then you must be able to confidently say that they dont have a roof over their head? No fresh running water for baths/showers/meals/drinks? They are cold in winter as no gas to heat the house? They have no food in their bellies? Clothes on their back? Shoes on their feet? They dont go on any school trips or infact do anything with school that costs any money? They have no birthday or christmas presents? No social life?

Seriously, £505 a month is @252.50 per child per month and as the mother of a 15 year old daughter myself, I can assure you that teenagers do not come cheap! If you were to break that £252 down its a fair amount.

The change you refer to is is from net to gross pay with differing %.

13Kent

We pay about £400 a month via CSA for one child on CSA 1 and my husband is not in a highly paid job. If we were on CSA 2 we'd be paying significantly less.

I think the weekly support rate might refer to the benefit rates which usually increase every year, and the CSA use these rates as part of their calculations when calculating the maintenance needed (I'm sure that's the case on CSA 1 anyway) so the rates may have increased, but often not by a huge amount, and as it's only part of the calculation the amount payable may not increase by the exact amount of the increase in the benefit support rates.

I'm sure someone more in the know will come along to advise.

In my opinion if he is already paying more than the CSA calculate then regardless of other people's opinions on how much teenagers cost I think he's being perfectly fair and reasonable.

shoe*diva79

I didnt say the OP's partner wasnt being fair and reasonable. I think its a very generous amount that he contributes towards his children and at one point could obviously afford it as thats what he agreed to pay on a private basis.

Ludicrous for the OP to suggest that CM isn't spent on the children though. Makes her sound like a bitter NRPP.