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Just Having A Moan About Work

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  • hgotsparkle
    hgotsparkle Posts: 1,282 Forumite
    Sometimes more hands are needed so hiring an extra is essential. I've been in my job for years, I'm the most experience in the region at my level and yet my pay doesn't reflect that, but thats because the company needs more staff to cover leave and sickness than spend the extra on pay rises. Thats just the way it is sometimes.
  • Are you saying you'd be happy with a £15 a week payrise?

    Don't know how many hours you do but I bet that would be pennies per hour rise.

    to be honest if you've never had a payrise (in terms of salary per hour) for 10 years then you need to give them an incentive to give you one ..........
  • BigAunty
    BigAunty Posts: 8,310 Forumite
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    edited 2 September 2014 at 6:01PM
    If you are being paid well under the market rate, and it is totally clear that your current employer will not raise your pay, then your only option is to find a new employer.

    What is the market rate in your area for someone with your skills, qualifications and experience? You feel underpaid but if all the other salons are offering the National Minimum Wage or self employed positions where the pay is very variable so could be low overall, then you aren't underpaid, necessarily.

    Unfortunately, the NMW in this country may as well be called the National Maximum Wage because there will be many employees who only ever get the NMW across their working life, regardless of their experience, skills, qualifications.

    You are not on the same pay, you are effectively on lower pay due to the impact of inflation.

    I say stop bothering to negotiate with your current employer and move on. Perhaps they will have a wake-up call when they advertise your vacant role and get a low standard of applicants because of the low pay but that's your issue.

    Your employer hasn't changed their attitude in a decade, its a lost cause.
  • cazziebo
    cazziebo Posts: 3,209 Forumite
    my issue was her being able to find extra money for a saturday girl but not offering it me as a pay rise...


    .

    If the Saturday girl frees up your time to deal with more customers then that's a good move surely?

    If you are going to raise the issue of a pay rise I wouldn't be arguing that you should get that £15 - I would base it on the increased custom that additional resource will bring to the salon.

    Is buying in to the salon an option?

    Regarding training, the salon I go to (small town, not a high end city salon) are always sending their stylists on cutting, colouring, latest gadget training. I'd be a bit reluctant to pay £70 odd for a stylist who has been doing the same thing for 20 years.
  • 19lottie82
    19lottie82 Posts: 6,034 Forumite
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    edited 2 September 2014 at 7:44PM
    Hairdressing I s often seen as a "glamorous" industry by young girls who are leaving school and decide to go to college to study for three years in the subject, but the reality is, after all of that hard work to gain your qualifications, a lot of the time at the end of it, all you get is minimum wage, which is pretty depressing IMO.

    The reality is your boss / supposed best mate, could prob find someone to fill your role very easily if you left as there are loads of young girls coming out of college looking for work.

    The only real way to make money in this industry is to be your own boss. If you want to earn more than minimum wage you really need to update your skills and think about a move. What about becoming a mobile hairdresser?
  • missbiggles1
    missbiggles1 Posts: 17,481 Forumite
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    sorry what the 'goverment thing' meant was my tax bracket changed so i pay less tax so get a bit more wage wise.. I work as a hairdresser & im on £7.00 an hour....


    Im 34 & did all my qualifications when i was 16
    level 1,2 & 3 so cant better my skills anymore..


    Im literally venting my frustrations lol as that £15 could be given to me rather than a sat girl who doesnt want to work lol

    I thought you said the Saturday girl will be paying them!
  • Dayman
    Dayman Posts: 117 Forumite
    BigAunty wrote: »

    Unfortunately, the NMW in this country may as well be called the National Maximum Wage because there will be many employees who only ever get the NMW across their working life, regardless of their experience, skills, qualifications.

    I find it highly unlikely that any person can't achieve better than NMW in their working life, extenuating circumstances a side. There are a lot of people like the OP who don't move on, for a variety of reasons, doesn't mean they can't achieve a higher wage. Even supermarkets pay above NMW for relatively stressless work.


    If you aren't happy with the pay you need to move on.
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