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  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    izzy65 wrote: »
    FC I don't think that any kids really regard pinching apples as stealing, my younger brother was caught scrumpimg apples and my mum was livid because we had three apple trees in the garden :)

    I think you're right. It was definitely more about getting over the wall and getting back out with the apples before we were caught.
  • lutzi1
    lutzi1 Posts: 2,703 Forumite
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    locarr wrote: »
    I predict a comfortable win for the no's...I think they are being intimidated by an agressive yes camp but will put their X in the right box when they get into the privacy of the polling booth..:cool:

    I am of Scottish heritage too!:D

    I agree with this to an extent, I do think people will pull back from the brink when they have to put their cross on a ballot paper, or in some cases aren't feeling free to say what they really think ( three sixteenths Scottish here :rotfl:). Unfortunately things are so close to call that whatever happens this won't be the end of things - the so called neverendum will ensue, to the eternal boredom of us all.

    However in breaking news, Wonga loans are poised waiting for a call from Alex Salmond on Friday morning if I'm wrong ;). :rotfl:
    Hope is not a strategy.
  • Evening all :wave:
    wackynut wrote: »
    I see there's a photo and name of someone doing the rounds on fb at the moment, allegedly of the lad that started the Manchester dog home fire.

    Personally I find this pretty dangerous.
    Who's to say that this person is the actual culprit for starters and not someone completely innocent.
    I'm all for justice but through the right channels.

    I agree, its just ridiculous :mad:
  • I know it's a silly little thing, but if Scotland vote yes, then they will not leave till 2016. Does that mean they can still vote in the next general election, inspite of the fact that it would not affect them for most of the term?
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
  • Bananababe
    Bananababe Posts: 7,358 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    I know it's a silly little thing, but if Scotland vote yes, then they will not leave till 2016. Does that mean they can still vote in the next general election, inspite of the fact that it would not affect them for most of the term?

    Apparently so, seems a bit daft though as if it happens (big If i hope) then The Uks affairs would be nothing to do with Scotland and we should step back and let UK goverment get on with it.

    xx
  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    I know it's a silly little thing, but if Scotland vote yes, then they will not leave till 2016. Does that mean they can still vote in the next general election, inspite of the fact that it would not affect them for most of the term?

    Yes they will

    https://www.scotreferendum.com/questions/if-scotland-votes-for-independence-would-scots-be-eligible-to-vote-in-the-2015-uk-general-elections/
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    Coupon shop successful :D

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    Paid 22p :cool:

    Plus I've just claimed £1.21 on CoS for free Volvic water, 20p cashback on any shop and 1p for entering the prize draw.

    I make that better than free shopping and a nice PP to go with it :beer:

    So, no fear that the prices of your groceries might rise post-independence then?:D:rotfl:

    They're always be offers on, offers off, back on again, whatever happens. It's a matter of taking the opportunity, and getting the loss-leaders - or the other side's loss leaders. Cost of living...what cost of living?!?:huh:

    With wombles for example, either it's free if you buy something with a womble (whatever Mr A's price). We had this before - for example 'real cash' elsewhere vs buying with a womble and paying no real cash, or a few pence real cash, even if the price of an equivalent (non-comparable maybe) in A is much higher. Or it becomes better than free if you buy an APG shop with a womble - as the womble gives you the goods and another shop for possibly free. Or, maybe, it gets you more for the same price (10% off the rival's price, or possibly better, plus A's own prices on a remainder ( of the value of the APG back)).

    Something I didn't quite get - was when A's Chief Exec. said they'd have two set of regulations to comply with. I already thought they had two sets of regulations... Scottish law and English (England and Wales) law are already separate and therefore I don't see any sense in the argument of greater costs when, if that were true, it would already be being incurred. So no extra cost by going down this road. Besides, doesn't Scots law allow shops to open 24 hours on Sundays rather than England and Wales' 6 hours (generally 10-4)? Does opening longer impose extra costs? Again, it seems to me opportunistic - opening more, at times when people will shop and buy - or opening at all, allows places to make a profit. Otherwise, why open ever at all? It's a matter of taking the opportunities - on their side, and undoubtedly us taking opportunities too!

    I know that what I think is right when the 'other side' start to annoy me. Alistair Darling today saying "There are no certainties with a 'Yes' vote".

    There are no certainties with a 'No' vote. There is no certainty that the 'vow' will be carried out, especially given it has to pass Conservative MPs, representating English constituencies, who do not like all the concessions that have been made to Scotland in order to try to get a 'no' vote, concessions that fall short of the independence required.

    With a 'yes' vote, there are certainties: it is certain Scotland will be independent. And it avoids all the risks of staying in the Union.
  • Busylizzie
    Busylizzie Posts: 2,988 Forumite
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    Guess who's STILL on 655 :mad::mad::mad: At this rate they are going to be losing players rapidly.

    This level nearly drove me mad too. Really it was a good job tweets had already passed it 'cos at least I knew it was possible.
    Look forward to the feeling of utter relief when you do eventually pass it :)
  • lutzi1
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    I know it's a silly little thing, but if Scotland vote yes, then they will not leave till 2016. Does that mean they can still vote in the next general election, inspite of the fact that it would not affect them for most of the term?

    That's an extremely good point, not silly at all. It could really hugger mugger up negotiations, with parties competing for the Scottish vote. But don't the Irish all come over en masse anyway to muck elections up? Totally ridiculous :mad:.
    Hope is not a strategy.
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    edited 17 September 2014 at 8:33PM
    I know it's a silly little thing, but if Scotland vote yes, then they will not leave till 2016. Does that mean they can still vote in the next general election, inspite of the fact that it would not affect them for most of the term?

    It's not 'silly' at all, it's democracy. But I know what you were aiming at. There are political repercussions of this too, some of which would be 'interesting' to see. Such as the lack of authority that a Cameron-led government (and I presume so, given that the polls do not suggest a Labour government at all) would command in its dying days in Scotland. Wonder why they have Gordon Brown rather than the current Prime Minister trying to make the arguments:think:. At least Scotland would avoid having to pay for MPs in the House of Commons and avoid paying for the House of Lords after that. The point is there are savings from independence and not just costs as the No side like to suggest.

    Nick Robinson said the other day that Mr Cameron might next be visiting Scotland as "the leader of a soon-to-be foreign country". I thought that was quite sort-of-attractive and, not wanting to trivialise things, would be quite enjoyable to see. But there are certainly more important issues than that at stake - merely that that is just a further reason at the end, just an added little bit, onto all the other reasons for voting "Yes". In fact Mr Salmond does not see this as being a foreign country, due to what it says in the Edinburgh agreement (the agreement that set in train the referendum) - Dimbleby interview yesterday on BBC ONE. So, just to note that the SNP (or leader of it) doesn't actually agree with the outset proposition. Even so, if I had a vote, I would vote Yes - though I think it is right that Scotland decides its own future. (Though, indirectly, it decides the rest of the UK's future too.)

    Indeed, it's not something you can correct in four or five years. Therefore, I hope Scotland votes for independence rather than making the mistake of rejecting that and being unable to correct it in four/five years' time. Take the opportunity now!
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