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Appeal rejected by PCN Mgt - IAS??

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mikeb2_2
mikeb2_2 Posts: 8 Forumite
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edited 9 August 2014 at 12:29PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Hi

Used the letter from Newbies thread to appeal to PCN Management as Keeper but they have rejected the appeal. Say I can pay or appeal through IAS. Haven't spotted a thread that advises how best to appeal through IAS. Need to get on with it as 9 of my 14 days are up!!!

Regards

mikeb2
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  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    Can't see immediately if this is a BPA or IPC case and don't know the PPC in question.

    IAS/IPC cases are complicated and depend upon the signs and whether the parking charge was damages or contractual. Please look on the search facility for IPC threads over the last 3 days or so to see what I mean as I can't go through it all again now. Or even use the facility to look at posts I have made recently and read the threads through.

    Then come back with some answers as to whether you have had a contractual charge or PCN and any sign photos. And where was this.
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 9 August 2014 at 12:52PM
    what 14 days ?

    its 21 days for an IPC IAS appeal

    is it PCN (NW) ? or PARKING CONTROL MANAGEMENT ?
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    edited 9 August 2014 at 12:56PM
    Redx wrote: »
    what 14 days ?

    its 21 days for an IPC IAS appeal

    From IPC CoP

    6. Sending a Notification Letter to the Keeper
    6.1 Where a parking charge remains unpaid and the keeper has not identified the driver within 28 days of the notice to keeper you should send a notification letter to the keeper confirming that they are now liable for the charge, the amount of the charge, the time frame for making payment and how they can make payment.
    6.2 It must not be sent before the expiry of time to identify the driver (28 days from date of Notice to Keeper).
    6.3 The letter should offer the keeper a minimum of a further 14 days to pay.
    6.4 The keeper must be told that the process of appealing within your internal appeals process and the IAS.


    However, from the IAS web site

    If you have unsuccessfully appealed a matter to a parking operator and you believe that the charge was unlawful then you can appeal the matter to the Independent Appeals Service. The parking operator concerned will inform the IAS when your appeal has been internally rejected and you can register your IAS appeal by visiting https://www.theias.org. Appeals must be received by the IAS within 21 days of the operator rejecting your initial appeal.
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    but if he is appealing then the 14 days to pay is irrelevant

    either he is appealing, or he is paying, he cannot do both
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,631 Forumite
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    Please show us the signs and the Notice to Keeper, both sides (obviously cover your name/address/PCN number & car reg but leave dates/wording visible).
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Been trying to submit this for days... scanner played up, then I got blocked, now my reply is too long... problem with image size???

    Coupon-mad - can I email to you? I can't upload as a reply - even if I squeeze the images to 26kb I keep getting "reply too large" errors - no idea how I can post the images????

    Will make one more attempt after this but not looking hopeful.... keeps telling me my reply is over 600,000 characters but I ma only allowed 25,000... weird

    Regards

    Mike
  • Tried again - any image I include blows the limit - how do I get the parking sign and notice to keeper letter posted??
  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
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    Upload images to tinypic.com and then post the link here with the http:// missing. We can do the rest for you. We really need to see the images.
    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
  • Now getting errors saying that as I am new I can't post links!!!

    Jeez this is hard. Popcorn141 is dealing with the same charlatans and his/her signage is the same as mine, as is the Notice to Keeper....
  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    Did you read my post above?
    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
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