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Fixing the NI Economy

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  • Witless
    Witless Posts: 728 Forumite
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    Cotta wrote: »
    Hi All,
    NI gets £10,876 per person per year and with a population of 1.8 million this is a staggering £19.5 billion per year.


    http://www.cityam.com/blog/1385049825/northern-ireland-has-highest-government-spend-head-uk

    That's interesting; could you balance it by telling us our average / total contribution, i.e. from income tax, NI contributions, VAT, fuel duty etc?

    (Bearing in mind that several functions here like education are centrally funded, not from Council Tax, the equivalent of our local rates.)
  • chunter
    chunter Posts: 2,020 Forumite
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    NI. aka the basket case.. the broken economy of a third world country but getting very heavily subsided by the English mostly. Independence? We'd all be living in tents in shanty towns.
  • saverbuyer
    saverbuyer Posts: 2,556 Forumite
    edited 7 August 2014 at 2:51PM
    Witless wrote: »
    That's interesting; could you balance it by telling us our average / total contribution, i.e. from income tax, NI contributions, VAT, fuel duty etc?

    (Bearing in mind that several functions here like education are centrally funded, not from Council Tax, the equivalent of our local rates.)

    Well the block grand (subvention) is around £11 billion.

    We "collect" around £9 billion in tax, national insurance etc.

    Oh and our rates do fund education. (but I do get what you mean)
  • Well we can't be that badly off as it seems
    "Almost half (45%) of people in Northern Ireland own a tablet computer – the joint highest in the UK."
    hhttp://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/the-smartphone-generation-30489785.html
  • Cotta
    Cotta Posts: 3,667 Forumite
    saverbuyer wrote: »
    Well the block grand (subvention) is around £11 billion.

    We "collect" around £9 billion in tax, national insurance etc.

    Oh and our rates do fund education. (but I do get what you mean)

    If our annual block grant is 11 Billion, what does the £10,800 per head relate to?
  • The_Hurricane
    The_Hurricane Posts: 773 Forumite
    edited 7 August 2014 at 3:23PM
    chunter wrote: »
    NI. aka the basket case.. the broken economy of a third world country but getting very heavily subsided by the English mostly. Independence? We'd all be living in tents in shanty towns.

    A United Ireland or independence would be nothing short of criminal in financial terms and in either case we could never survive.
  • qwert_yuiop
    qwert_yuiop Posts: 3,617 Forumite
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    saverbuyer wrote: »
    Well the block grand (subvention) is around £11 billion.

    We "collect" around £9 billion in tax, national insurance etc.

    Oh and our rates do fund education. (but I do get what you mean)

    So we've an 11 billion overspend, which is a fair bit different from 20 billion. Rates do not pay for education.
    “What means that trump?” Timon of Athens by William Shakespeare
  • saverbuyer
    saverbuyer Posts: 2,556 Forumite
    Cotta wrote: »
    If our annual block grant is 11 Billion, what does the £10,800 per head relate to?

    Tax raised plus block grant.
  • qwert_yuiop
    qwert_yuiop Posts: 3,617 Forumite
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    edited 7 August 2014 at 3:36PM
    A United Ireland or independence would be nothing short of criminal in financial terms and in either case we could never survive.

    An 11 billion subsidy is criminal.

    Of course we'd survive without it. We'd just be poorer.

    I'd like to see this place thrive or not on its own merits. I don't think the English owe us anything.
    “What means that trump?” Timon of Athens by William Shakespeare
  • saverbuyer
    saverbuyer Posts: 2,556 Forumite
    So we've an 11 billion overspend, which is a fair bit different from 20 billion. Rates do not pay for education.

    Regional rates sort of do.
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