Pensioners Bus Pass CutsWatch !

Nada666

Was it a leather or metal strap? I think this is just an urban legend. It didn't happen. You can't flick a playing card as a deadly weapon, either.

Altarf

dzug1 wrote: »

It's more complicated than a fixed price per journey - OK you collect data on the number of journeys (which can then be analysed by route, time of day, etc) and then you negotiate with the bus company how you actually pay them. I suspect there's a complicated formula involved

You are correct, it is complicated.

The amount paid is to compensate the bus company for those people that would have paid, but have not had to due to having a bus pass.

No money is due if the person would not have travelled, and paid, if they did not have a free bus pass. If money was paid in these circumstances, this would be a subsidy to the bus company and would likely be illegal under EU state subsidy rules..

Subsidies are only permitted for specific reasons, for example to support non-commercially viable rural routes, but these payments are separate to the amounts paid for the use of bus passes.

The other circumstance when the bus company is due to receive money, is when customers who want to pay can't get on the bus as it is full of free bus pass customers, who wouldn't have paid, and thus the bus company gets no money for them.

That is the logic, but the practicality usually results in an amount being paid per bus pass use, particularly when there are a number of bus companies competing on the same route.

SailorSam

Merseyside must have one of the best travel pass schemes, we can get a pass at 60 to travel on not just the buses but trains and ferries as well.
I think during the day outside the rush hours most of the passengers seem to have passes. If the Govt makes changes and takes the passes away many journeys may not be made which will leave older people even more isolated, and it could lead to bus companies closing down all together 'cos of the revenue they'd lose. If that happend other passengers who pay their fares to get to work could lose their only means of transport.

dzug1

Nada666 wrote: »

Was it a leather or metal strap? I think this is just an urban legend. It didn't happen. You can't flick a playing card as a deadly weapon, either.

Wrong thread I think?? Or do pensioners threaten drivers with their passes?

antenna

According to "whatrecovery" post number 9 it is all about the leather or metal strap the government is going to use to beat pensioners with to forcibly remove their bus passes.