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  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
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    Assuming it's 40 years until you reach age 68 that'd make you 28 now so I'll use 1 Jan 1986 as the birth date and 27 July as the joining date in their calculator, along with picking the SHPS - CARE 1/80 scheme option and 145 total contribution. The calculator tells me that your pension would be £12,621 in real terms, which means today's money, at age 65, the normal retirement age for the scheme. It would be lower for earlier retirement.

    Here's the detail of what it says:
    Pension Details Normal Retirement Date 	01/01/2051
    Pensionable Service (complete years and months) 	36 years and 5 months
    Projected Final Salary 					£107,302
    Projected Pension 					£37,032
    Pension as % of Final Salary 				34.51%
    Projected Pension in Real Terms 			£12,621
    Death in Service Details Lump Sum 			£66,000
    Dependant's Pension 					£5,007
    Children's Pension 					£1,252
    Tax Free Cash Sum Details Maximum Cash Sum 		£156,439
    Maximum Cash Sum in Real Terms 				£53,316
    Pension Reduction 					£13,566
    Pension Reduction in Real Terms 			£4,623
    Death After Retirement Details Dependant's Pension 	£18,516
    Children's Pension 					£4,629
    Dependant's Pension in Real Terms 			£6,310
    Children's Pension in Real Terms 			£1,578
    Contribution Details Gross Annual Contributions 	£3,080
    Tax Relief 						£616
    Ni Rebate 						£271
    Net Annual Contributions 				£2,193
    Net Monthly Contributions 				£183
    
  • TCPPC
    TCPPC Posts: 142 Forumite
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    Jamesd
    Thanks for the illustration im sure other people will benefit from that example you provide. My current LTV is 83% so still high hopefully can get to 70% in the next 5 yr but as you mention most of the gain is when you are on 90%+.

    i never thought about getting a personal one as well before i actually look into the shortfall using the aviva calculator. TBH once i get to retirement age hopefully mortgage free with some savings. I can live off with 15k if with no debt.

    my thinking is you lose a lot of normal expense i.e car, insurance, petrol, night outs.
  • OldBeanz
    OldBeanz Posts: 1,436 Forumite
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    Or you buy a flashy sports car so although you are doing fewer miles the expense is the same and your insurance goes up because you are partying abroad.
    You will still have the ability to enjoy yourself at 70 and it is easier if you are not worrying about money by putting a little aside now :).
  • ViolaLass
    ViolaLass Posts: 5,764 Forumite
    TCPPC wrote: »
    my thinking is you lose a lot of normal expense i.e car, insurance, petrol, night outs.

    Why? Don't retired people still get to drive and go out?
  • kidmugsy
    kidmugsy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
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    The disadvantage of pensions is the inflexibility - the money is tied up for ages, exposed to political risk. You'd need an unusually good incentive to persuade you to contribute. The employer's 6% is that incentive.
    Free the dunston one next time too.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,697 Forumite
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    my thinking is you lose a lot of normal expense i.e car, insurance, petrol, night outs.

    You gain expense in its place. Currently you spend you money in your social time and spend little or nothing in your working time. In retirement, you have no working time. just 7 hours more a day to spend money.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
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