Mercury fillings extraction..anyone done it?

Hi everyone!

Having suffered from M.E. And fibromyalgia for nearly 10 years, I regularly come across information online about possible causes for this illness or perhaps alternatives to what else it could be (as I'm sure a lot of other people do in this position!)

Having read an article about a lady being misdiagnosed with M.S. and finding out it was actually mercury poisoning from amalgam filings. She subsequently had them removed, and has made a remarkable recovery....is got me reading more stories about other people with autoimmune disorders who have gone through the same thing...

Prior to getting M.E. I did have some dental work as a tooth with a mercury filling cracked and I swallowed some bits of tooth and filing and I have two other mercury fillings and am wondering whether anyone has experienced this or actually had them removed?

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  • Mojisola
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    Having suffered from M.E. And fibromyalgia for nearly 10 years, I regularly come across information online about possible causes for this illness or perhaps alternatives to what else it could be (as I'm sure a lot of other people do in this position!)

    Having read an article about a lady being misdiagnosed with M.S. and finding out it was actually mercury poisoning from amalgam filings. She subsequently had them removed, and has made a remarkable recovery....is got me reading more stories about other people with autoimmune disorders who have gone through the same thing...

    Prior to getting M.E. I did have some dental work as a tooth with a mercury filling cracked and I swallowed some bits of tooth and filing and I have two other mercury fillings and am wondering whether anyone has experienced this or actually had them removed?

    I've got ME and, as fillings have had to be changed, I've paid the extra to have white ones done. Taking the old fillings out releases mercury into the body so I didn't like the idea of having them all done at once.

    This is from Dr Myhill's site -
    https://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Mercury_-_Toxicity_of_Dental_Amalgam_-_Why_you_should_have_your_dental_amalgams_removed
  • Thanks for the link...I did start treatment under Dr.Myhill but It worked out too expensive for me to stick with and didn't seem it make much difference, although I know her treatments do for work for many others....

    From what I have read about the removal of the fillings you have to do a major detox before and after the removal of the filings to reduce the effects of the mercury being released in the body..sounds very complex doesn't it?
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  • brook2jack
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    A great deal has been written about , in the past, about possible links between ms,me etc and amalgam fillings. Much of this has been based on the discredited work of Hal Huggins, but many people have spent a lot of money hoping removal of their fillings will "cure" them.

    All experts in MS have agreed there is no link between MS and amalgam fillings particularly as fillings are only responsible for a small amount of the average mercury exposure in the average person , and dentists and dental professionals who are exposed to more amalgam than anyone do not have a higher rate of MS or ME than the general population. For anyone thinking of spending money read the MS society's take on removing amalgam fillings http://www.mssociety.org.uk/sites/default/files/Documents/Essentials/Oral-health-factsheet-Aug-12.pdf

    The relevant passage is
    However, there is no evidence that mercury causes MS or that removing dental amalgam improves the course of MS. Furthermore, it has been estimated that amalgam accounts for only 10 per cent or less of mercury intake. Dental amalgam removal is generally expensive, but there are few risks associated with it. On rare occasions, it may cause injury to nerves or teeth.
  • brook2jack
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    This is from an American site. The dentist they refer to is Hal Huggins the discredited "anti amalgam guru"


    Dental amalgam has been used for over 150 years to fill cavities and restore teeth. It is composed of mercury, silver, tin, zinc, and copper. The removal of dental amalgam as treatment is based on the idea that mercury from amalgam is slowly released and causes or exacerbates MS. It is claimed that very small amounts of solid and vaporous mercury are released and, by damaging both the nervous and immune systems, cause MS and other conditions. Furthermore, it has been suggested that diseases can result from allergic reactions - mercury sensitivity, mercury hypersensitivity, mercury toxicity, or micromercurialism – or a small electrical current produced by the mercury -oral galvanism or electrogalvinism.
    Before removal, a careful evaluation of the dental work is usually completed. This may include a questionnaire about symptoms, allergy testing, electrical readings of restorations, hair analysis, and mercury-vapor tests. Sometimes a few fillings at a time are removed, a method claimed to release “locked mercury.” After removal, gold or plastic fillings are used for dental work.
    Several claims have implicated dental amalgam as a factor in MS. MS has been associated with dental treatment and the bacterial disease that produces cavities (dental caries). It has also been proposed that MS can be caused by exposure to heavy metals, including mercury.
    Dental amalgam has been implicated in the etiology of several other diseases. These include other neurological conditions, including headaches, brain tumors, epilepsy, and Parkinson’s disease. Dental amalgam has also been implicated in other immune-related conditions, such as lupus, arthritis, and chronic fatigue syndrome. It has also been suggested that it is linked to cancer, depression, and heart disease. Mercury toxicity may produce symptoms similar to those MS.
    Despite these observations, the available research does not indicate that mercury causes MS nor that amalgam removal is a beneficial treatment for MS. Mercury toxicity and MS share many symptoms, however they are the results of different pathological processes. Also, MS was a recognized disease well before dental amalgam was commonly used, and many people with MS have no dental amalgam.
    Dental amalgam does not release high levels of mercury. In order to produce even mild toxic effects, it is estimated that a person would need to have about 200 fillings. Dental amalgam is believed to constitute ten percent or less of total mercury consumption. The rest of the mercury intake comes from fish, other foods, medications, pollution, disinfectants, and paint.
    The American Dental Association (ADA) has found unnecessary dental amalgam removal to be an improper and unethical practice. A dentist in Colorado had his licensed revoked for removing dental amalgam from MS patients in 1996. The National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Public Health Service, and the National Multiple Sclerosis Society of the United States also do not support amalgam removal.
  • Thanks Brook2jack for that detailed information..the expense concerns me as does the danger of removing something that can cause more problems than if it was left alone!

    I appreciate different points of view..I was concerned as I knew I had swallowed some bits of filling and my illness seems to be linked to possible mercury poisoning..

    Life would be much easier if there was a straight forward cause and treatment for M.E.!
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  • Cyberman60
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    A great idea to have them out IMO but under very strictly controlled conditions (ie separate breathing device and rubber dam to prevent vapour or residue entering body) as mercury is one of the most toxic substances known to man and a proven killer of motor neurons. My brother died of motor neuron disease (ALS), a central nervous system disease which I attribute to him having all of his fillings changed from amalgam to cosmetic whites but without this control. The article about this lady only further reinforces my beliefs on this and the need to detox (chelate) if you have suspicions of any mercury poisoning!!
  • welshdent
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    WADR there is absolutely NO evidence that amalgam filling removal would cause ALS. Have a read of what brook wrote. Many people have their beliefs but the evidence does not back them up. Once upon a time people believed the earth was flat. There is a lot of scaremongering but they do not have credible research. You would get more mercury eating some fish than by having an amalgam filling placed, sitting there still or by having it removed. I do not have scores of people suffering with the multitude of ailments attributed to amalgam ... I have a lot of patients that have had amalgam fillings! ... I do however have patients that have some of those conditions with no amalgam fillings in their head at all and have never had one placed.
    The difference between a medicine and a poison is simply dosage given. Water can kill you if you drink too much of it.

    re swallowing amalgam during placement - the likely outcome of that is it stayed in you a day or so at the most before joining the rest of the undigestables down the toilet!
  • welshdent
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    p.s. your body is a finely tuned detox machine. There is no need to do extra things to "detoxify"! Every second of every day your body detoxifies quite happily on its own. We have been on this earth a long time and have managed the entire time without these detox ploys often peddled.
  • Mojisola
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    welshdent wrote: »
    p.s. your body is a finely tuned detox machine. There is no need to do extra things to "detoxify"! Every second of every day your body detoxifies quite happily on its own. We have been on this earth a long time and have managed the entire time without these detox ploys often peddled.

    I mostly agree with this - our kidneys are amazing detox factories - but there are some things that are hard to shift from the body such as heavy metals and some pesticides. Whether any of us (other than people who work in metal industries or workers who are exposed to undiluted pesticides) have high enough levels to be of concern is a moot point.

    Anyone who has a chronic illness will have had well-meaning people tell them about how you can better it you do X, Y and Z because they read an article about someone who did it. After years of ill-health, it takes strength not to follow up on everything that gets mentioned - it would be so wonderful to be well!
  • I haven't had it done personally, but I know someone who did, feeling convinced it would solve her M.E. problems. Sadly, it didn't. It made no difference at all.

    I solved my own M.E. by doing Mickel Therapy and don't feel my multiple mercury fillings had anything to do with it. That's just my own opinion and experience though and I know that others will have theirs.:)
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