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My experience of recruiting new staff
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It really does depend on the level you are recruiting for.... some don't have academic qualifications. Although my University now states that it's a good idea to include a photo at the top of the page.. especially if it's a PR based job (discrimination anyone?), but yeah they have been indicating that is the best way to go.
The rest of it is surprising, but possibly they just haven't had the right help? I think a few spelling errors can be overlooked if the candidate is of excellent quality otherwise and performs well in the interview. Assuming the job doesn't require complete written competency.
Moreover, there maybe an issue with your particular recruitment processes/people just want to avoid JSA sanctions and/or those particular individuals have no experience with such questions. University teaches you how to learn and adapt to new environments. What it's not good at is putting it into practice. Not so great highers/GCSE's can be improved later on in life and I think it's bad that some companies use this as a benchmark; especially when the potential employee has degrees - some kids just don't enjoy school.
Soft skills is what it's all about now... Business Transformation in the Organisation... it's called. Communication, negotiation, persuasion, team-working... this is what employers are after when they refer to the shortage of skills in the UK. It's what i'm being taught just now as I wrap up my Masters.
"Soft skills" is such management gobbledegook.
I;ve always thought team-working requires some special skills. But all it really means is an ability to get on with others and be willing to help them out at work.
Communication is just an ability to talk clearly and listen carefully.
I'd have thought management don't want persuasion and negotiation skills in many routine jobs really - despite what they might say. As an employee they just want you to do what they tell you to - not to negotiate or try to persuade them otherwise!0 -
It really does depend on the level you are recruiting for.... some don't have academic qualifications. Although my University now states that it's a good idea to include a photo at the top of the page.. especially if it's a PR based job (discrimination anyone?), but yeah they have been indicating that is the best way to go.
The rest of it is surprising, but possibly they just haven't had the right help? I think a few spelling errors can be overlooked if the candidate is of excellent quality otherwise and performs well in the interview. Assuming the job doesn't require complete written competency.
Moreover, there maybe an issue with your particular recruitment processes/people just want to avoid JSA sanctions and/or those particular individuals have no experience with such questions. University teaches you how to learn and adapt to new environments. What it's not good at is putting it into practice. Not so great highers/GCSE's can be improved later on in life and I think it's bad that some companies use this as a benchmark; especially when the potential employee has degrees - some kids just don't enjoy school.
Soft skills is what it's all about now... Business Transformation in the Organisation... it's called. Communication, negotiation, persuasion, team-working... this is what employers are after when they refer to the shortage of skills in the UK. It's what i'm being taught just now as I wrap up my Masters.
I was this idealistic when I left uni too.
Most organisations want people who fit into their mould of their sort of person. This will be a very different sort of person for, say a Local Authority compared with an IT company. Spelling errors are rarely overlooked - your CV is your sales document and if it isn't perfect at that stage, what hope for any other sort of work produced?
As for putting a photo on - don't, just don't. It looks quite unprofessional and odd - more like an application for a dating site! I've seen a few of these, mostly from European applicants, and it tends to be a source of fun for those recruiting rather than anything else. You might think you look fab, but who is to say the recruiter will agree?! I think your University is way out of touch with the real world!0 -
You typed it.What makes you think it was my list?
No, but you gave a list of different groups you shared a class with, and the tone of your post was such that you implied these were not people you wished to share a class with.Are you under the impression the government consulted a 15 year old me on how to set up this initiative?
I ask again: Why did you include pregnant girls in that list?0 -
Jitterbug123 wrote: »My younger brother went for an interview for a graduate scheme recently. He was the only person who wore a suit. I think it's very odd that you would turn up for an interview not in smart dress.
Depends on the job no?
I once went for an interview in my jeans and a white t-shirt and you know what? i got the job lol, this was 15 years ago though,
everyone else had suits.• HSBC (Main A/C)
• Halifax Back up A/C
• Lloyds (Spending) A/C
• RBS Back up A/C
• Barclays Old A/C
• Nationwide Old A/C0 -
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You typed it.
No, but you gave a list of different groups you shared a class with, and the tone of your post was such that you implied these were not people you wished to share a class with.
I ask again: Why did you include pregnant girls in that list?
As crispy_chris said, I mentioned them because they were there.
However as you seem to be hell bent on picking this scab I'll tell you that they were actually the most disruptive people in the place.
They would just sit around in their little pregnant gang talking !!!!!!!! and if anyone said anything to them they'd start shouting and screaming and try to fight you. This also extended to people suggesting that maybe they shouldn't be smoking or trying to get into fights when their stupidity isn't only effecting themselves.
They treated that baby in their gut as if was a protective force field allowing them to do whatever they wanted without protest or repercussions, yet you say one god damn word to any of them and you're getting a torrent of abuse all day and that's only if you get lucky and there's no family member/boyfriend/babydaddy they can drag down there to fight you.
They were scumbags. You didn't have to deal with them, I did.0 -
Thank you for confirming my suspicions.0
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Caroline_a wrote: »I was this idealistic when I left uni too. Most organisations want people who fit into their mould of their sort of person. This will be a very different sort of person for, say a Local Authority compared with an IT company. Spelling errors are rarely overlooked - your CV is your sales document and if it isn't perfect at that stage, what hope for any other sort of work produced?
As for putting a photo on - don't, just don't. It looks quite unprofessional and odd - more like an application for a dating site! I've seen a few of these, mostly from European applicants, and it tends to be a source of fun for those recruiting rather than anything else. You might think you look fab, but who is to say the recruiter will agree?! I think your University is way out of touch with the real world!
Meh lol, too idealistic :P Horrible thing to say lol, but I can see what you mean... there must be a fit between you and the company culture to excel and in some cases get the job in the first place. I agree your C.V. is a sales document an it promotes your brand image, I mean't more if it was maybe a slight error on a general application forum... not particularly egregious spelling errors.
As for the picture thing, yeah I totally see were you're coming from, but to draw form example Linkedin is apparently being used as the new online C.V. platform and it's well stated that people tend to get the job with a picture to create some kind of connection.
I see all your points and agree with all to some extent.
To other guy banging on about soft skills are a lot of crap. We'll communication is a soft skill... multimillion pound projects fail because of a lack of communication. Thus I think soft skills are integral to the success or outcome of any endeavor. Other examples include negotiating international trade deals, but hey that's just my two cents - also when I say soft skills I mean higher level jobs... I don't think the Op specified, but maybe i'm wrong.
Maybe i'm being optimistic... i'm sure i'll learn if I get a management position after I graduate 0 -
... and what do you deem to be the faults with it?
The upper-case G for Greet?
The fact that the 'achievements' are really just the activities?
or ... what?0
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