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Company Pension

Hi

We are a very small company with just two employees, my son and myself. I am over the age of retirement but my son hasn't got a pension and the auto-enrolment law has made me realise that I should pull my finger out and get something organised. Should I just use the scheme under the auto- enrolment or would it be better to shop around?

Thanks in advance. Jackie
Treat everyday as your last one on earth! and one day you will be right.
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  • kidmugsy
    kidmugsy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
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    I am over the age of retirement

    Sorry I can't help with your enquiry. But if you mean that you are over the State Retirement Age, then a suggestion. If you have not already done so, consider suspending ("deferring") your State Retirement Pension. It's the best value pension investment you could make for yourself - every year of deferral gets you an extra 10.4% extra pension.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/299286/dwp024-apr-14.pdf
    Free the dunston one next time too.
  • imported_jac
    imported_jac Posts: 178 Forumite
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    Thanks kidmugsy. I am already drawing my pension. I'm a bit of a cynic and thought I'd better have the benefit of it now in case I die soon.
    Thanks xylophone, I'll have a read.
    Treat everyday as your last one on earth! and one day you will be right.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,818 Forumite
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    We are a very small company with just two employees, my son and myself.

    Are you employees, partners or directors?
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • imported_jac
    imported_jac Posts: 178 Forumite
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    Hi dunstonh. It is a limited company and I am a director and my son is an employee. My pension is all sorted but I need to sort out a works pension for my son who is in his thirties.
    Regards Jackie
    Treat everyday as your last one on earth! and one day you will be right.
  • More than likely better to shop around. Are you a member of the FSB by any chance since you are a small business? There's an exclusive auto enrolment pension scheme for members available if so.
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  • greenglide
    greenglide Posts: 3,301 Forumite
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    If your son is an employee of "your" limited company then the company can pay pension contributions directly for your son. This means that no NI contributions are deducted (employee and employer) and the payments are tax deductible for the employer.

    Obviously you would need to ensure that your son knew what the payments were worth. I would get him to start the pension, I does not need to be auto-enrolment.
  • Your_Hero
    Your_Hero Posts: 883 Forumite
    As long as your son is earning over £10,000 ("qualifying earnings" which includes salary, wages, commission, bonuses, and overtime) then he needs to be enrolled onto a "qualifying workplace pension scheme" for auto-enrolment purposes. This isn't just any old pension scheme you can find. There are many rules governing this and only a handful of firms currently offer this.

    You as the employer needs to contribute 1% to begin with, and so does the employee (your son) at 1%. This will rise to 3% from the employer, and a total contribution of 8% by 2018.

    You can find out more from the Pension Regulator website. http://www.thepensionsregulator.gov.uk/employers/what-is-automatic-enrolment.aspx

    As always, if it's too much to take in, best to seek advice but be prepared to pay a fee.
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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,818 Forumite
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    As a director you are exempt from auto enrollment until you have an employee. Once you have an employee, directors are taken into consideration as well. Now, you can opt out but you need to include yourself in the autoenrollment process when your time is due.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
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    Open a company pension and pay in for both of you. Pay from the company so as to save NICs and save corporation tax.

    Use unbiased.co.uk to find an advisor to help you or ask your company acct if they know of a good one.
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