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Mortgage Lender Checking on Your Job

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  • Dave_Ham
    Dave_Ham Posts: 6,045 Forumite
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    Interesting, would have guessed at someone else as we have done a lot of cases with Halifax recently and with clients employed by national companies but not had this crop up..

    Cheers
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  • Dave_Ham wrote: »
    Interesting, would have guessed at someone else as we have done a lot of cases with Halifax recently and with clients employed by national companies but not had this crop up..

    Cheers

    Did you ever use GMAC's 'Star' product? It's frightening how easy it was to get a mortgage!
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  • kingstreet
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    Just checked and it was Las Iguanas and not TGIs.

    Sorry. Two similar cases close together.
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  • Twiglet21
    Twiglet21 Posts: 34 Forumite
    Since the new rules came in early this year banks are increasingly making more checks and this does include employment. If you are thinking of being in any way clever with the information you're providing I would avoid it because it could all fall apart at the last minute, we have just been through the process and it appears common for the bank to make a final employment and credit check immediately prior to release of funds by which time you will probably have exchanged contracts and be bound to buy it even if the bank pulls that offer which leaves you in a really sticky situation. Good luck with everything
  • Senior_Paper_Monitor
    Senior_Paper_Monitor Posts: 2,918 Forumite
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    edited 2 August 2014 at 8:53AM
    This popping back up reminded me I was going to look up which cases where had had automatic verification of income recently ...


    Santander (from their criteria) ...


    Automated Income Verification (AIV)


    AIV is an automated way of verifying income through the

    Credit Reference Agency (CRA) comparing Current Account

    Turnover (CATO) information against an applicants stated

    income. Where a joint application is submitted, both applicants

    must be AIP eligible.


    This agreement is on the basis that you, the intermediary, are

    satisfied that the income declared is accurate and that at the

    time of full case submission you have supporting evidence of

    net income which meets our requirements. This information

    should be retained on file for a minimum of two years from

    the date of completion.






    I also believe Nationwide can do similar but can't find any notes on the subject so don't hold me to that.
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  • kingstreet
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    Funnily enough I had another Halifax electronic verification of income yesterday. The applicant works for a Leeds-based firm called Andrew Page Ltd.
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  • Thrugelmir
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    For Companies that submit their PAYE etc to the HMRC electronically. The data is real time. So the HMRC receives a detailed breakdown of all employees.
  • bitmadmax
    bitmadmax Posts: 30 Forumite
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    The lenders must be able to see more about current account info than we can then - Noddle and experian always say my current account balance is 0 when it's usually anything between 500-1500 over the month?
  • GingerBob_3
    GingerBob_3 Posts: 3,659 Forumite
    edited 2 August 2014 at 10:58PM
    bitmadmax wrote: »
    The lenders must be able to see more about current account info than we can then - Noddle and experian always say my current account balance is 0 when it's usually anything between 500-1500 over the month?

    Yes, as I understand it, current account data does not show positive values, so how is this AIV working?

    I would be extremely surprised - strike that; I wouldn't be surprised at all - if payroll data submitted to HMRC was made available to private companies.

    Last time I applied for a mortgage (19 years ago) the BS requested a reference from my employer, so what's new?
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    bitmadmax wrote: »
    The lenders must be able to see more about current account info than we can then - Noddle and experian always say my current account balance is 0 when it's usually anything between 500-1500 over the month?

    Lenders will see account turnover data.
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