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HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”
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"We often hear Nationalists (and some Labour voters with short memories) complaining about how Scotland "always" votes one way but gets the opposite. The implication is that Scotland always votes socialist but gets Conservative government.
Really? Is it true that Scotland never gets what it votes for?
In this article, we list the General Elections since 1945 and examine the statistics a little more closely.
The reality is that Scotland gets what it votes for two out of three times - the same as England!
Out of the 18 General Elections since 5 July 1945 - measured by the winning percentage of overall vote on the day - 9 times Scotland voted Labour, and got Labour. That is, half the time!
A further 3 times Scotland voted Conservative, and got Conservative.
In total 12 times, or 66.67% of the time, or two thirds of the time, Scotland has got the party which it voted for - measured by the winning percentage on the day.
This compares with England which has also got what it voted for 12 times.
That is 7 times England voted Conservative and got Conservative, and 5 times England voted Labour and got Labour.
Once it voted exactly for Conservative and for Labour by an equal percentage, and got Labour.
In addition, 3 times it voted Conservative and got Labour, once it voted Labour and got Conservative, and once it voted Conservative and got a Coalition."“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/07/01/uk-scotland-independence-polls-idUKKBN0F648R20140701(Reuters) - Scotland looks unlikely to vote for independence in September, researchers say, citing poll data as showing the separatists have been unable to build momentum behind their campaign as decision day nears.
A study by the University of Stirling published on Tuesday estimates a 79 percent chance that the people of Scotland will reject the chance to end a 307-year-old union with England, up from 70 percent in April.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Does this indicate we English are going to have to go on supporting you lot forever?0
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Does this indicate we English are going to have to go on supporting you lot forever?
Absolutely.
We've subsidised you lot with our oil money, why would we want to split off now that source of income is in terminal decline?
It's payback time....:D“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
As a Londoner, I'd have to say that Londoners are pretty good at perverse and protest votes.
After all, they voted Ken(neth Robert) Livingstone and (Alexander) Boris (de Pfeffel) Johnson even though there were more, ...........well, ................normal candidates.......
Don't take anything the electorate of London tell you as Gospel.:huh: Don't know what I'm doing, but doing it anyway... :huh:0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Absolutely.
We've subsidised you lot with our oil money, why would we want to split off now that source of income is in terminal decline?
It's payback time....:D
The English have all that shale gas to exploit. There's billions just lying there! You don't want to miss out on you cut of all that moolah, now do you?
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Quite interesting!
It definitely seems to be swinging towards 'no' now. I think the union works well for both sides, and both sides would be worse off without it.“I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse0 -
Yep, another poll out today showing a significant lead for 'No Thanks'....“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Talking about Westminster, I read with interest that : -
Regions to get £6bn in government funding
The thing is, that this is toThe decision to invest directly in local economies follows a report by former deputy prime minister Lord Heseltine in 2012 calling for a greater devolution of power from London to the English regions.
I bet this "fund" is not showing in the regional spending budgets.
Is this another indicator where Westminster thinks the UK is England?
Why is this not rolled out to Wales, Northern Ireland or Scotland?:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Talking about Westminster, I read with interest that : -
Regions to get £6bn in government funding
The thing is, that this is to
I bet this "fund" is not showing in the regional spending budgets.
Is this another indicator where Westminster thinks the UK is England?
Why is this not rolled out to Wales, Northern Ireland or Scotland?
Perhaps because this is spending for England being devolved to the regions of England rather than spending for Britain being devolved to the regions of England.
If you'd like similar in Scotland then talk to your MSP who might help. Perhaps the SNP doesn't want to devolve power below Edinburgh. The people of the Orkneys or Glasgow can't be trusted in their minds.0
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