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Only offered 40% ltv help???

Hi I have an existing mortgage with HSBC with £25k outstanding. My house value is £95k and I have tried to release another £30k so looking at around £55k in total I went to see them today and they will only offer me at decision in principle stage £39k in total. I earn £16k a year and have a disposable income of £700! They seem to think there is an error on their system so I am booked in for an app anyway. Can anyone shed any light for me? Many thanks Kels xx

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  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,690 Forumite
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    It does not matter what your disposable income is now, they stress test at around 5-6 possibly even 7%.

    It does seem a bit on the mean side but without knowing more about your income/expenditure/commitments its difficult to say.
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    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • kingstreet
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    As this appears to be wholly between you and HSBC I don't know that anyone will be able to suggest anything that isn't complete speculation.

    Affordability is a function of income, outgoings and mortgage term. The output may be correct, it may not. Only HSBC can answer.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • kellysaxo
    kellysaxo Posts: 70 Forumite
    I am just wondering in your experience with a disposable income of £700 does this offer seem quite low and would you say my disposable income would normally allow me to lend this amount?
  • kellysaxo
    kellysaxo Posts: 70 Forumite
    ACG

    My outgoings for everything including bills is £414 my basic take home with no commision is £1150
  • kingstreet
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    I don't know any lender which calculates what you can borrow from your disposable income.

    Try different lenders' online calculators and they pretty much all work from gross annual income, less outgoings. Of course disposable income will be part of the internal calculation, but none of us can tell you what would be required.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,690 Forumite
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    I think Woolwich are the only ones who advise how much disposable income is required although after the email i had today (case failing affordability by a whopping £4 a month)... even that is debatable.
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • kellysaxo
    kellysaxo Posts: 70 Forumite
    I thought it was all down to affordability now? And if I did remortgage it would save me a fortune!
  • kingstreet
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    It is, but many lenders use Office Of National Statistics figures for outgoings, not yours. They will require abnormal expenses to be reported, such as childcare, student loans, ground rent and service charges.

    Like I said, look at different lenders' online affordability calculators and you'll see what I mean...

    BTW you might find you get better offers by remortgaging to another lender than you will for an HSBC further advance. Introductory shagpile and all that.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    What's the purpose of the £30k release?
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