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Oyster card inspectors: using someone else's card

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  • katejo
    katejo Posts: 4,292 Forumite
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    cpheonix wrote: »
    This is what I mean. How can inspectors know whether the Oyster card with an annual travelcard is registered to the person holding it or not if it only tells them whether it is valid? Surely they would have to do a thorough check on a system somewhere?

    As I said, I've been loaning my weekly one on the odd days (unaware this was 'fraud') and was contemplating getting a yearly one. I probably still will but I wanted to see how TFL could know if I did lend this for the odd journey (I emphasis again, not that I will).

    I have never loaned mine at all but always keep my old photo card with me as I half expect them to do a spot check at some point in time.
  • w211
    w211 Posts: 700 Forumite
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    Thanks for answers, I only use my Oyster on pay as you go.
  • iAMaLONDONER
    iAMaLONDONER Posts: 1,669 Forumite
    cpheonix wrote: »
    This is what I mean. How can inspectors know whether the Oyster card with an annual travelcard is registered to the person holding it or not if it only tells them whether it is valid? Surely they would have to do a thorough check on a system somewhere?

    As I said, I've been loaning my weekly one on the odd days (unaware this was 'fraud') and was contemplating getting a yearly one. I probably still will but I wanted to see how TFL could know if I did lend this for the odd journey (I emphasis again, not that I will).

    You don't have to register your oyster to buy a weekly travelcard ( TfL will expand this to monthly travelcards as part of its Fit for the Future plans).

    HTH
  • trukdiver
    trukdiver Posts: 747 Forumite
    cpheonix wrote: »
    This is what I mean. How can inspectors know whether the Oyster card with an annual travelcard is registered to the person holding it or not if it only tells them whether it is valid? Surely they would have to do a thorough check on a system somewhere?

    As mentioned above, you have to have a photocard for an annual travelcard. The photocard number is on the travel card and the photo has to match the person using the card.
  • benjus
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    edited 19 January 2015 at 2:40PM
    trukdiver wrote: »
    As mentioned above, you have to have a photocard for an annual travelcard. The photocard number is on the travel card and the photo has to match the person using the card.

    This is not true. I have an annual travelcard on my Oyster and have never had a photocard.

    The "scanning thingies" they have now look a bit more sophisticated than the old ones - presumably they had to replace them when they started accepting contactless payment cards. So they might show more information now - don't know.
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  • silvercar
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    For a PAYG Oyster you are perfectly allowed to pass this between family and friends providing it does not have what Yorkie2 has written above loaded on to it.

    That can't be right. If you use the card in the morning and reach the daily cap, you shouldn't be allowed to lend it to someone else who would then get free travel.
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  • yorkie2
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    silvercar wrote: »
    That can't be right.
    It is right.
    silvercar wrote: »
    If you use the card in the morning and reach the daily cap, you shouldn't be allowed to lend it to someone else who would then get free travel.
    You're entitled to your opinion about what people should or shouldn't be allowed to do, but that's not what TfL think, and it is they who set the rules.
  • silvercar
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    yorkie2 wrote: »
    It is right.

    You're entitled to your opinion about what people should or shouldn't be allowed to do, but that's not what TfL think, and it is they who set the rules.

    Wow!

    Can we expect to see adverts from tfl suggesting that someone comes home from work (having capped out) and then passes their oyster to their partner for an evening trip to town for free?
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  • silvercar wrote: »
    Wow!

    Can we expect to see adverts from tfl suggesting that someone comes home from work (having capped out) and then passes their oyster to their partner for an evening trip to town for free?

    why would they do that and do themselves out of money from someone else using another Oyster? That would be silly, however they do say that you can share a PAYG oyster but you just have to find it first ;)
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  • benjus
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    Since PAYG Oyster cards don't have to be registered, it would be impossible in practice to enforce a rule against sharing them.
    Let's settle this like gentlemen: armed with heavy sticks
    On a rotating plate, with spikes like Flash Gordon
    And you're Peter Duncan; I gave you fair warning
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