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Maternity leave / settlement agreement
Blue_Monkey
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Long story so please bear with me.
I've been with my current employer for 6.5 years and am due to go on maternity leave with DC2 at the end of June. My current salary is £45,000 + £4,800 car allowance paid as cash. My performance has been good but payrises have been paltry however I've never really pushed this seeing as I've had a huge amount of flexibility over the years. Since having DC1 I've been a homeworker and do 4 days per week, though am paid full time as I've been using the huge amounts of leave I accrued to take 1 day off a week since being back from the last lot of maternity leave.
We've been undergoing a huge change programme, it's been in the pipeline for about 18 months and on 30 April we were told what it would mean for us. Everyone's jobs were put into categories - A&B are safe, C&D were not. I am in category B. Voluntary redundancy was open for everyone, regardless of category, to apply for between 6-23 May. Terms were that the VR payment would be 1 months' salary for every year of service (capped at 9 years), calculated to the day.
We all had 1-1's with our bosses and mine took place on 1 May whereby I was told my job was safe but that it would mean I'd now need to be in the office 5 days a week instead of being PT or a homeworker and that whilst this wasn't imminent, it would be the case when I return from maternity leave in a years' time. All homeworker contracts are rescindable with 3 months' notice and I have previously worked in the office they want me to go to, but doing the 1.5hr commute as a singleton was do-able - with 2 small children it isn't really......
I said that this obviously affects my personal life significantly so to make a decent decision I'd like to understand more about the voluntary redundancy and how my maternity pay/leave etc would be affected by that. I was told an answer would be forthcoming asap.
However, the VR application window came and went and I still didn't have an answer. I was told I would be exempt from the 23 May deadline.
Meanwhile, we start to recruit externally for my maternity cover. First ad, based on my current job description, goes on on 21 May. We get several CVs, and when asked for their salary expectations, any applicants who were suitable are wanting £15-25k more than my salary. Those asking for around my salary were far too junior and not appropriate.
Still no news on the VR until last week, 4 June, I get a call from my line manager saying that it had been an extremely complicated situation and that the bottom line was they couldn't offer me VR but would consider looking into a settlement agreement instead. They said they would overall love for me to stay after my maternity leave but couldn't, at this point in time, guarantee me the flexibility I'm looking for. So they see that there is a benefit to me going on a settlement agreement in that they can recruit for a longer-term role as of now rather than having the disruption (my words not theirs) of me coming back and having to hand back over plus asking for more flexible hours. This would mean my employment terminating on the same day my maternity leave would start (ie end of June).
They said they hadn't done the calculation for my settlement figure but that it would need to cost approximately the same as what it would cost to have me on (enhanced) maternity pay for the year (ie so they are no better or worse off), but they would do the calculation if it was something I was interested in looking at properly.
The next morning, 5 June, I emailed to say that I can't make a proper decision on either option without the figures so could they please go ahead and calculate this and that it would be great to get it by close of business Friday 6 June because it had taken a long time to get to this point and it was beginning to stress me out. Surprise surprise, here we are on 11 June and I still don't have a figure. Everything I've read on settlement agreements recommends a minimum of a 10 day review period after the settlement agreement is issued and if I'm due to leave on 27 June there isn't much time.
Also, telephone interviews were done this week for my maternity cover and an offer was made. This has been a bit of a kick in the teeth for 3 reasons:
Gah. At 34 weeks pregnant and 2.5 weeks left of work I really don't need this.
Any advice would be most welcome. Thanks and well done if you read this far!!
I've been with my current employer for 6.5 years and am due to go on maternity leave with DC2 at the end of June. My current salary is £45,000 + £4,800 car allowance paid as cash. My performance has been good but payrises have been paltry however I've never really pushed this seeing as I've had a huge amount of flexibility over the years. Since having DC1 I've been a homeworker and do 4 days per week, though am paid full time as I've been using the huge amounts of leave I accrued to take 1 day off a week since being back from the last lot of maternity leave.
We've been undergoing a huge change programme, it's been in the pipeline for about 18 months and on 30 April we were told what it would mean for us. Everyone's jobs were put into categories - A&B are safe, C&D were not. I am in category B. Voluntary redundancy was open for everyone, regardless of category, to apply for between 6-23 May. Terms were that the VR payment would be 1 months' salary for every year of service (capped at 9 years), calculated to the day.
We all had 1-1's with our bosses and mine took place on 1 May whereby I was told my job was safe but that it would mean I'd now need to be in the office 5 days a week instead of being PT or a homeworker and that whilst this wasn't imminent, it would be the case when I return from maternity leave in a years' time. All homeworker contracts are rescindable with 3 months' notice and I have previously worked in the office they want me to go to, but doing the 1.5hr commute as a singleton was do-able - with 2 small children it isn't really......
I said that this obviously affects my personal life significantly so to make a decent decision I'd like to understand more about the voluntary redundancy and how my maternity pay/leave etc would be affected by that. I was told an answer would be forthcoming asap.
However, the VR application window came and went and I still didn't have an answer. I was told I would be exempt from the 23 May deadline.
Meanwhile, we start to recruit externally for my maternity cover. First ad, based on my current job description, goes on on 21 May. We get several CVs, and when asked for their salary expectations, any applicants who were suitable are wanting £15-25k more than my salary. Those asking for around my salary were far too junior and not appropriate.
Still no news on the VR until last week, 4 June, I get a call from my line manager saying that it had been an extremely complicated situation and that the bottom line was they couldn't offer me VR but would consider looking into a settlement agreement instead. They said they would overall love for me to stay after my maternity leave but couldn't, at this point in time, guarantee me the flexibility I'm looking for. So they see that there is a benefit to me going on a settlement agreement in that they can recruit for a longer-term role as of now rather than having the disruption (my words not theirs) of me coming back and having to hand back over plus asking for more flexible hours. This would mean my employment terminating on the same day my maternity leave would start (ie end of June).
They said they hadn't done the calculation for my settlement figure but that it would need to cost approximately the same as what it would cost to have me on (enhanced) maternity pay for the year (ie so they are no better or worse off), but they would do the calculation if it was something I was interested in looking at properly.
The next morning, 5 June, I emailed to say that I can't make a proper decision on either option without the figures so could they please go ahead and calculate this and that it would be great to get it by close of business Friday 6 June because it had taken a long time to get to this point and it was beginning to stress me out. Surprise surprise, here we are on 11 June and I still don't have a figure. Everything I've read on settlement agreements recommends a minimum of a 10 day review period after the settlement agreement is issued and if I'm due to leave on 27 June there isn't much time.
Also, telephone interviews were done this week for my maternity cover and an offer was made. This has been a bit of a kick in the teeth for 3 reasons:
- They clearly can turn things around quickly - phone interview on Monday, offer was out 24 hours later for this new person. Here I am 6 weeks later still waiting for a figure.
- My replacement is being offered £60,000 + £4,800 car allowance (so £15k more than me). The salary range for my role is £40-60k so she's gone straight to the top of the range. Knowing the way pay reviews etc work I know that being on maternity leave will give me the minimum pay rise next year (so 2-3% probably). I've known for ages I've been underpaid compared to the market, but have lived with it because they let me work abroad for a time (see below)and because of the homeworking benefit. Additionally, I've heard on the grapevine that the other candidates who I thought we were also going to interview didn't get a look in because this one "was the cheapest"....
- My cover is being provided with relocation assistance to move from Amsterdam to London so that she can start. A few years back I said that my DH had work in Australia and that I would need to resign unless they would support me working from the Sydney office. They said ok, but that I was to fund all costs, which I did. It worked fantastically for the business for me to be based out there, and I only came home because I was pregnant with DC1. Again they were quite accommodating of my plans yet insisted all removals, flights etc be at my costs seeing as it was all at my request. Again, I didn't really push it but now it feels an insult that at the drop of a hat they throw a load of relocation benefits at this girl and whilst I know Amsterdam to London one way is cheaper than London to Sydney and back, it's still galling. They've known since January that I'd be going on mat leave at the end of June so the fact that they are now in a panic to get her in and are happy to pay for it seems a further insult.
Gah. At 34 weeks pregnant and 2.5 weeks left of work I really don't need this.
Any advice would be most welcome. Thanks and well done if you read this far!!
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For a settlement (formally a compromise) agreement to be valid you have to receive legal advice. It is customary (although not obligatory) for the employer to pay towards this.
As a general point what somebody else earns is not relevant. The only exception would be if you could prove that it was due to one of the handful of type of discrimination that are prohibited by law (e.g sex, race, religion etc) or because you were part time. Many other types of discrimination may be "unfair" but are not unlawful!0 -
Undervalued wrote: »For a settlement (formally a compromise) agreement to be valid you have to receive legal advice. It is customary (although not obligatory) for the employer to pay towards this.
As a general point what somebody else earns is not relevant. The only exception would be if you could prove that it was due to one of the handful of type of discrimination that are prohibited by law (e.g sex, race, religion etc) or because you were part time. Many other types of discrimination may be "unfair" but are not unlawful!
I was retired last year on a comprimise agreement....when i recieved the agreement i took it to a solicitor who read it through and signed it, my employer paid all fees.. OP you don't need a solicitor before you recieve it but you will be given limited time after to get it checked over and signed by the solicitor.
EDIT: Sorry also meant to add, with regards to the time you have been waiting. You recieved the reply with regards to VR but they where looking into a settlement agreement that was on the 4 June, thats only 6 days 2 of which were non working days. It seems like the company is very busy and the problem they will also have is getting the settlement figure worked out and agreed by management...all of which can take time.0 -
Thank you both for your replies.
I've got a call tomorrow to "run through the maternity pay figures". Just hoping it's not only the maternity pay figures and will include all of what the settlement figure might be.
So it sounds like I've got a very weak case to push for anymore than they might suggest? I guess that's what I'm ultimately hoping for - ie more money.0
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