Self Employment a Mess Help!!!

LottieBarrett

Hi,

2 years ago I was taken on by my friends mother in her salon but self employed. I get paid and always have a fixed amount of £250 a week so a £1,000 before tax.

However I have never received a contract or the likes confirming my employment status and agreement.

In regards to my tax returns, my bosses husband said he would complete them for me I would just have to give him tax of £50 a week from my wages. As I have never been self employed before I agreed to this. Can a non accountant do this if he is not my boss?

However I have since discovered that I have clearly over paid a lot of tax to him, the problem being I have never received a wage slip from them invoiced them for my work and I have always paid the £50 cash!

In a right pickle don't know how to go about proving all of this and what to do about my wage slip / contract situation. Would be really grateful for any professional advice!!!!

Thanks.

tomterm8

LottieBarrett wrote: »

Would be really grateful for any professional advice!!!!

Thanks.

I'm not a professional. I'm trying not to criticize the way you've run your business... but it's hard to be polite about it.

Move on from here. Do the taxes yourself, or hire a professional. Don't try to sue them.

There's a gap between what's right, justice, and what the law will do. In this case it's your word against theirs with no contract and no proof you ever paid the money to them, and no way to say exactly what the agreement was.

So, in summary, get on with the rest of your life and use it as a learning lesson:

• Always get receipts for cash transactions
• Always get a written contract
• Always do your own taxes, or hire a registered professional to do them

LottieBarrett

I'm not a professional. I'm trying not to criticize the way you've run your business... but it's hard to be polite about it

Wouldn't really call that polite or advice really just looking for information on who best to contact to see what tax has been paid on my behalf and what I need to start demanding off my employer.

So, in summary, get on with the rest of your life and use it as a learning lesson:

Moving on with my life doesn't really sort out any problems that's just burying my head in the sand. If my boss has been doing stuff incorrectly on my behalf I will still be liable later on and would rather sort it now than it bite me later on.

Thanks

Stevie_Palimo

Ring the tax office and see if anything was paid.

tomterm8

LottieBarrett wrote: »

Wouldn't really call that polite or advice

Bluntly put, it is very polite. It's not what you want to hear. What were you expecting?

LottieBarrett wrote: »

Moving on with my life doesn't really sort out any problems that's just burying my head in the sand. If my boss has been doing stuff incorrectly on my behalf I will still be liable later on and would rather sort it now than it bite me later on.

Thanks

Did you hear the bit where I recommended you hire a professional?

You're liable for any mistakes that your boss made on your behalf. If you go into this without professional help you're likely to find yourself in very deep trouble.

Derwent

LottieBarrett wrote: »

Wouldn't really call that polite or advice really just looking for information on who best to contact to see what tax has been paid on my behalf and what I need to start demanding off my employer.

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1. You need to contact HMRC and ask them if any PAYE deductions have been paid to them on your behalf, and also ask about your National Insurance contributions too.

2. You don't have an employer to demand anything off. You have no contract with the other party and have acknowledged your self-employed status. If HMRC say that nothing has been paid for the last 2 years you will be personally liable to pay any backdated tax and NI contributions owed to HMRC. I'm afraid to say you have been very foollish in doing this in such an informal way - if HMRC say you owe them then you are at the mercy of the other party to give you the money back that you have paid to them. If they refuse then you may well find yourself being out of pocket by all of those £50 payments plus having to find the money to pay HMRC what they are owed.

HappyMJ

These hire a chair self employed positions are quite common...but to be paid a fixed rate each week regardless of what you did does not sound like self employment.

You should be paying the salon a fee to hire the chair each week and keeping a percentage of the work that you do. They may charge 20% of the takings as a processing fee but the risk is yours if no clients visit you or you do not work.

Self employed people do not get wage slips. You raise an invoice then they pay you....gross without tax being deducted (unless they are VAT registered and you are not).

LottieBarrett

All I was expecting is comments on where to start finding the information I need. 'Moving on with my life' is not what I would call helpful or polite but that is just my opinion.

Did you hear the bit where I recommended you hire a professional?

One a wage of £200 a week after tax at the age of 21 im unfortunately unable to hire a professional hence asking advice on this websites forum as I believe this is what it is for.

Please can you stop commenting on my post so those with any possible advice for me can help.

tomterm8

LottieBarrett wrote: »

Please can you stop commenting on my post so those with any possible advice for me can help.

You are, in fact, the one who is impolite.

Yes, I can stop commenting on your posts.

If you don't get professional help you will end up with a criminal record. You've already broken very many laws at this point.

LottieBarrett

HappyMJ wrote: »

These hire a chair self employed positions are quite common...but to be paid a fixed rate each week regardless of what you did does not sound like self employment.QUOTE]

No I do not pay chair hire at all just work at a rate of £50 a day this also does not fluctuate on how many hours I work either this is set, but as I said I have no written confirmation of this.

Would you say asking my employer if she can get her husband to provide me with the details of my tax that has been paid to date might help if they have been diddling me this may scare them a little?

Thanks,

Bantex_2

LottieBarrett wrote: »

All I was expecting is comments on where to start finding the information I need. 'Moving on with my life' is not what I would call helpful or polite but that is just my opinion.



One a wage of £200 a week after tax at the age of 21 im unfortunately unable to hire a professional hence asking advice on this websites forum as I believe this is what it is for.

Please can you stop commenting on my post so those with any possible advice for me can help.

1. Are you registered as self employed?
2. Have you submitted a tax return for last year?
3. How are you paid (cash, cheque etc)?
4. Do you invoice for the amount you receive?
5.Have you called HMRC to see what they know about you?

If you are self employed you need to stop referring to your employer or wages.