SSP & Holiday

chrisbur

specialboy wrote: »

The op went sick on Friday, why aren't Sat and Sun counted as waiting days? Non working days count.

Saturday and Sunday are non qualifying days so do not count as waiting days, only qualifying days can count as waiting days.

specialboy

Why do the Gov say non working days are included?

You can get £87.55 per week Statutory Sick Pay (SSP) if you’re too ill to work. It’s paid by your employer for up to 28 weeks.
You need to qualify for SSP and have been off work sick for 4 or more days in a row (including non-working days).
You can’t get less than the statutory amount. You can get more if your company has a sick pay scheme (or ‘occupational scheme’) - check your employment contract.

chrisbur

specialboy wrote: »

Why do the Gov say non working days are included?

You can get £87.55 per week Statutory Sick Pay (SSP) if you’re too ill to work. It’s paid by your employer for up to 28 weeks.
You need to qualify for SSP and have been off work sick for 4 or more days in a row (including non-working days).
You can’t get less than the statutory amount. You can get more if your company has a sick pay scheme (or ‘occupational scheme’) - check your employment contract.

This information from the YouGov site is in my opinion over simplified if you want to understand SSP the best source was the E14 book "Employer Helpbook for Statutory Sick Pay" This was issued each year for employers up to last year and the last issue can be seen at http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/helpsheets/2013/e14.pdf
As I said this is a year out of date but most of the details are covered.
Page 8 has the definition of a PIW this is where the 4 days comes from
"Period of Incapacity for Work (PIW)
A period of sickness lasting at least four or more days in a row. All days
of sickness count towards the total number of days in a PIW, including
bank holidays, weekends and non-working days. If there are less than four
consecutive days there is no PIW and you need take no action. To check if an
employee’s PIW links with a previous PIW, see the tables on pages 63 to 66."

Page 9 has details of qualifying days
"Qualifying Days (QDs)
These are the only days you can:
• pay SSP for, and
• count as Waiting Days (WDs).
They are usually the days of the week your employee normally works; their
contracted working days.
You can decide not to use the contracted working days if, for example, your
workforce operates a varied or alternative working pattern each week.
For simplicity you may want to have the same days each week as the
QDs, but you must first reach agreement with your workforce or their
representative(s) about which days will be QDs. You cannot use different
QDs than the actual work pattern without agreement with your employees.
There must be at least one QD in each week running from Sunday to
Saturday. Bank Holidays and other non-working days do not alter the
normal pattern of QDs.
An employee’s QDs for SSP must be based on the days that are ordinarily
worked by that worker. It may be, for example, that a worker’s initial
contract states that there shall be one qualifying day a week for SSP
purposes. SSP can only be considered on a one day per week basis if that
accurately reflects the actual work pattern of the worker. Where, for
example, an employee regularly works five days per week, this regular work
pattern displaces the original terms of one day per week, and the QDs must
be assessed using five days per week."

And page 9 again for details of waiting days
"Waiting Days (WDs)
SSP is not payable for the first three QDs in a PIW. These are called Waiting
Days (WDs). They are not always the first three days of sickness as the
employee may have been sick on non-QDs. Where PIWs are linked and all
three WDs have been served in the first PIW, there will be no WDs in any
later linked spells of sickness. But, if all three WDs have not been served in
the first PIW, any remaining WDs must be served at the beginning of the next
linked PIW or series of linked PIWs."

I have underlined a few bits.

There is an SSP calculator here https://www.gov.uk/calculate-statutory-sick-pay which you could use to test these details.